Originally posted by kosmicjack

Come on Sky. Liberals are just more open about it. People are people and people of all ideologies have issues:

Alright, to clarify, here is the descent of liberal sexuality from healthy to unhealthy:

"Free sexuality!" Good
"Stop making us feel guilty about Sex!" Good
Homosexuality Acceptable
Promiscuity Acceptable to Some
Teen-Sex 16-year old Barely acceptable
Pedophilia Unacceptable
Bestiality Unacceptable

Skyfloating sees everything on gradient-scales. In my mind I have similar gradient-scales for the right-wing, from healthy to unhealthy, but this thread is not about them.

The idea is that everything can be taken to an unhealthy extreme. In this case liberalism is taken to that extreme.

That is no attack on liberals or a generalization, its just a matter-of-fact observation.


[edit on 29-9-2009 by Skyfloating]

Oh my, where to start? Of course Hollywood is not necessarily liberal. You've got the "talking heads" of course but labeling the lot as "liberal" would be incorrect. Didn't Reagan come from this crowd?

Polanski is a freak, SHOULD be prosecuted but pointing fingers at people that have nothing to do with it is wrong. So a couple of morons have called for his freedom said something. Misguided admiration for his work. What about the multitudes that have said nothing? LIBERAL OR NOT????

the woman who this incident surrounds has said she has no grudge against him and that no charges should be made, seams kind wierd that since they dont have a case why even presue ?

Originally posted by zerbot565
the woman who this incident surrounds has said she has no grudge against him and that no charges should be made, seams kind wierd that since they dont have a case why even presue ?

What are you trying to say? Please rephrase.

He is a pedophile who avoided arrest until now.






[edit on 29-9-2009 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by intrepid
Polanski is a freak, SHOULD be prosecuted but pointing fingers at people that have nothing to do with it is wrong. So a couple of morons have called for his freedom said something. Misguided admiration for his work. What about the multitudes that have said nothing? LIBERAL OR NOT????

Never said its "liberalism". Said its "liberalism gone crazy"

Huge difference.

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
So, rich criminals are only hunted and prosecuted when they step on the toes of other rich and powerful people.

Thats an interesting point. It may be valid.

Originally posted by verylowfrequency
media demonetization of Polanski?

Why do some of you keep talking about "demonizing" Polanski? Ive read this around the internet too.

How exactly is he being "demonized"?

Originally posted by Skyfloating
Disclaimer: This is no criticism of liberalism as such but of its darker side

How the left-wing are treating the Polanski-case is a good example of the dark-side of liberalism, a good example of what happens when a soft heart becomes a soft brain.

The guy is a child-rapist who fled the country in order not to get arrested. Now that he did get arrested, several "liberal" activists such as Harrison Ford, Monica Belluci, Harvey Weinstein, various left-wing-organizations, are calling to "Free Polanski".

And British novelist Robert Harris described the arrest as "disgusting treatment".

The Swiss Directors Association also criticised the arrest, describing it as "not only a grotesque farce of justice, but also an immense cultural scandal".

What on Earth could be the obvious “dark-side” motives of those well-known people you mentioned here in order to keep a child-rapist as in this case Polanski, who himself confessed to being involved in that crime, from withholding him for being prosecuted for it.

Would they still calling for "Free Polanski" and describing that arrest as "disgusting treatment" when it was one of their own children who where the victim of such a really disgusting crime?

And would it indeed "not only be a grotesque bad example of injustice, as also an immense cultural scandal" when well-known people such as Harrison Ford, Monica Belluci, Harvey Weinstein, various left-wing-organizations and The Swiss Directors Association would succeed with such iniquitous actions?



[edit on 29/9/09 by spacevisitor]

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Originally posted by StuNice

Why was my Polanski Thread moved to BTS, while yours as a mod is still on ATS, There is already a thread on this subject. Get It together ATS.

I think its because you posted a news-item in "alternative news" and Im posting a political-item in "political ideologies".

But you can always file a complaint (member tools) and Mods can check it out.

Originally posted by Skyfloating

Even if there was a conspiracy - you act and talk as if a conspiracy has already been proven - it doesnt change the fact that left-wing-activist groups and actors are saying that the arrest is a scandal and disgusting (rather than saying that the rape is disgusting).

That in itself is a conspiracy....a psychological conspiracy, and a proven one at that.

Even if there is a conspiracy....it does not justify accepting pedophilia.

Btw: You are free to open a thread on the conspiracy-angle.

Conspiracy proven not yet. Well it's been over 30 years and the guy has been in plain site the entire time - thus this case didn't make sense until it was pointed out that somebody might not want his work to be finished. Then it makes sense.

Conspiracy's don't justify anything they just provide the whys.

Yes, it's a crime and perhaps even a monstrous act and as designed with that information we are the deer in the headlights it seems. I was just trying the understand the story from beyond that simplistic MSM gotcha perspective.