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reply posted on 21-9-2009 @ 08:52 AM by novacs4me
It would be wrong to assume that the Arab world has nothing to gain by the removal of the threat of a nuclear Iran. Egypt is also a potential ally of Israel for purposes of ending this threat. There seem to be a lot of people who simplify this situation into an east vs. west dilemma, but it is quite complicated, really.



reply posted on 21-9-2009 @ 08:54 AM by UmbraSumus
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What if they fly over anyway?

Well, we have to be serious about denying them that right. That means a denial where you aren’t just saying it. If they fly over, you go up and confront them. They have the choice of turning back or not.

No one wishes for this but it could be a Liberty in reverse. [Israeli jet fighters and torpedo boats attacked the USS Liberty in international waters, off the Sinai Peninsula, during the Six-Day War in 1967. Israel later claimed the ship was the object of friendly fire.]

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"A Liberty in reverse" ........ ? Curious statement.

Is this Brzezinski implying that the "friendly fire" on the USS Liberty was calculated and intentional ?
The interviewer missed an opportunity to follow up that statement . I would of liked to of heard his take on that shocking incident.

That American Forces might `accidentally` fire on Israeli planes .....



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reply posted on 21-9-2009 @ 09:16 AM by DataWraith
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''That American Forces might `accidentally` fire on Israeli planes .....''

Why not? they 'accidentally' fired on UK troops during the war in Iraq a couple of times.


reply posted on 21-9-2009 @ 09:55 AM by rogerstigers
Originally posted by novacs4me
Originally posted by mkross1983
Originally posted by novacs4me
It would be wrong to assume that the Arab world has nothing to gain by the removal of the threat of a nuclear Iran. [


Iran DOES NOT have nuclear weapons.

DOES NOT.

Try to keep up.

Power plants do not equal nukes.

That is all.

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And to that I have only one answer: taqiyya. That is all.


Ah, so you are implying that someone is lying here? (just my interpretation of the wiki article)

I dunno, I think Iran made a pretty good case that the documents, the only public proof that I know of, indicating the existance of their nuclear "weapons" program are highly suspicious if not outright fakes. After the whole yellow cake thing in Africa, I would have to say anything the intelligence community produces would have to be very highly suspect. Both sides are probably lying here, it just depends on which lie you want to believe.



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reply posted on 21-9-2009 @ 10:02 AM by rogerstigers
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Careful now, you'll be called a jew hater. Don't you realize that if you aren't with Israel, you are with the terrorists?

It's almost as bad a "playing the race card." I say hmm, maybe Iran isn't all that bad and voices from nowhere shout "Jew Hater!", "Anti-Semite!", "We had the holocaust!!", etc.

But on the same note, the Arab world uses the "Palestine" card over and over, but they don't really do anything productive to help.

I've said it before.. it bears repeating.. Spoiled, arrogant children fighting in a playground. That's all this seems to be and it will keep up that way until they either grow up or something in the stalemate changes.

BTW, people who deny the holocaust do confuse me. I have seen plenty of books, poems, artifacts, etc. I have spoken to people, and not just Jews, who survived the camps. I mean the numbers could be questioned, I guess, but the fact that it happened... I can't see how that is at all questioned.

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reply posted on 21-9-2009 @ 10:20 AM by pavil
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I love this quote from the article....
The Washington Post reported: "Barack Obama, combating the perception that he is too young and inexperienced to handle a dangerous world, got a boost yesterday from a paragon of foreign policy eminence, Zbigniew Brzezinski."


Like Zbig, was some great foreign policy thinker....he did swell under Carter didn't he? Iran blew up and Afghanistan started, plus the Soviets started exporting Communism to other parts of the world. All in all, his time in office was a foreign policy disaster.

I really want to listen to that guy.


Let's see...let's attack Israel for attacking Iran so we will have to do it ourselves later on. Makes perfect sense to me.....
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