Brzezinski - US Must Shoot Down Israelis If They Attack Iran

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posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by mmiichael
Everyone seems to want to ignore Saudi Arabia.

Guess which country just gave Israel the Green Light to fly over their space.

The US went into Iraq and Afghanistan largely to contain Iran For better or worse the West has decided the Saudis have the upper hand. The threats to Israel are more a provocation of the US than a desire to engage in a direct war. As the hope was Saddam would be overthrown by his own people, the ideal is for an uprising in Iran to topple the Mullahs and Mr A.

Iran has looked at what North Korea gets away with on moving the nuclear issue forward despite reprimands. A bad model - North Korea isn't important. Were Iran to apply logical self-preservation they'd de-escalate the tension. But they do the opposite. Meaning they're running on emotion and religious fervour rather than common sense.

The way most of the world, even Russia sees the situation "They're asking for it."

Theocracies make for terrible governments and disastrous foreign policies.

Hope none of this comes to pass.


Mike



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I hope none of this comes pass either. But, you're right, I can definitely see the Saudis giving Israel a green light. The Arab world has little love for the Persians.
I hope to God Israel does not do it. It would be the worst thing they could do to themselves. Even if they killed not one human being while pulling off the attack, they would be screwed.




posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 09:54 PM
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Brzezinski is Obamas boss, He groomed Obama from day one in public office. Him saying this will infuriate the Israelis as it has me. Obama is being buds with our long time enemies and dissing our allies. Honduras ring a bell.

Mossad should take these Anti-Americans out. This statement will only speed up Israeli plans and maybe force Israel to use much deadlier weapons. Its time our military do their job and get rid of these evil Socialist in D.C.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:04 PM
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You're not a jew hater, just an idiot.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:17 PM
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reply to post by rogerstigers
 

Sorry, rogerstigers. I've been held up. Since you were waiting anxiously for me to show up, it would be bad form to not do so. And thanks for the mention. It's really nice to be noted.

The very first mistake I saw was the statement that Israelis should not be allowed to traverse "OUR" airspace.

Iraqi airspace is not US airspace, therefore, the US has no business shooting down any foreign planes over IRAQI airspace unless they are first attacked.

Israel will NOT follow an anticipated line of approach. They're smarter than that.

They may not attack at all. (yeah, right.)

Regardless, in the event Israeli strikes Iran, it will not set off this multi-country war many uninformed seem to fear so badly.

Who, exactly, will be warring against who? The truth is, if Iran is struck, Russia and China have a great business opportunity to go in and fix things.

Besides. The Israelis never, ever forgot about Russia. With a considerable pipeline into and out of Russia, there's no telling what's already in place in Russia.

And Iran.

And many, many other Arab countries.

To launch a missile strike, UAV, or air strike is to be anticipated.

To launch cruise missiles from tramp steamers just off the coast is to be unanticipated.

To merely detonate devices already in country is to be unanticipated.

Israel will NOT be anticipated.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:22 PM
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Mass murder, at nuclear facilities? Someone doesn't know their history. Israel broke its back not to kill civilians during the raids on the Iraqi, then Syrian nuclear facilities. You think their plan is to just drop nuclear bombs on population centers?



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:30 PM
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I have a better idea, let the Israeli Air Force take out the Iranian Nuclear sites, while the American Air Force TAKES OUT ISRAEL'S NUCLEAR SITES!

Iran would have no reason to then retaliate against us, and a war mongering and genocidal Israeli State will be Nuclear dis-Armed in the process.

If we time it right, by the time the Israeli Air Force starts it's return trip we can knocn them out of the sky.

Iran won't have nuclear weapons, Israel won't have nuclear weapons, none of the other world powers can complain...it's a fair quid, pro, quo.

We lock up all the criminals from AIPAC, disband Homeland Security, kick all the dual Israeli U.S. Citizens out of Government and arrest them for the spies that they truly are.

Case solved! Dum da dum dum, da dum dum dum.

The names of the Criminal Regimes and enterprises have not been changed for once to protect the guilty!

[edit on 21/9/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:33 PM
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ZBig wants harmonization, and attacking Iran would be chaos that could not be controlled, and Russia will loose all those contracts and lets not forget the Chinese Military Bases they have been building in Iran



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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Don't forget, Proto, while we're cleaning up - we gas the Congress and White House, hang all the lawyers (that will take care of the ACLU as well), banish all ACORN workers and volunteers, reinstate the Tenth Amendment, cut the tongue out of that whining bitch that pitches our local car dealership, and in general, any other pains in the ass.

Guess that would include the two of us.

Damn.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:34 PM
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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Why would we attack Israel? They are an ally. Iran is not.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by dooper
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Don't forget, Proto, while we're cleaning up - we gas the Congress and White House, hang all the lawyers (that will take care of the ACLU as well), banish all ACORN workers and volunteers, reinstate the Tenth Amendment, cut the tongue out of that whining bitch that pitches our local car dealership, and in general, any other pains in the ass.

Guess that would include the two of us.

Damn.


Outstanding idea Dooper! I just knew you would have a plan of where to go from there Buddy!

We should restore our government before any major war goes down. Do you really want Obama as Commander in Cheif of World War III good night!

The Israelis need to take a chill pill while we have this clown in charge of the Military.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by stevegmu
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Why would we attack Israel? They are an ally. Iran is not.


Isreal an ally? What exactly have they done for us besides blow up the U.S.S. Liberty and kill 67 sailors, subvert our government's foreign policy and riddled every agency of our government from the CIA to Customs to the FBI with Israeli Intelligence Agents?

Not my idea of a friend, not at all no sir.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:44 PM
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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 

Seriously.

I think they know this. If anything, I tend to believe that the Israelis, in the interest of either self-defense or revenge, will have significant assets on the ground in Iran.

I do not see them following any anticipated line of approach.

Man, they've got to get this whiney-assed, talking-through-her-nose, car dealership owner's daughter off the ads on TV.

Ever notice how the ads are like ten times louder than everything else?

Who knows? Maybe Iran will have an in-house nuclear disaster.

THAT would be something no one could put any blame on . . .



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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Z.Brzezinski remark- Herein after referred to as ZB.Did he say Shoot down Israeli jets before they reach Iran.

Are you s.i.t.n. me guys. How many of you out there even know who ZB is?
I did not think so. How many of you know who the Committee on Foreign Relations are? I didn't think so. we call them CFR's now days they are the eyes and ears of the NWO last time I checked Mr. ZB was a card carrying member of the CFR's so let's consider the source before you go shooting off your mouth about shooting down our best middle est ally.

First of all ( how soon we forget) Amadenijad ( or how ever it's spelled) Already said he is going to wipe Israel and the U.S off the world MAP. He considers both the U.S. and Israel one and the same enemy. Need I say more.
Just consider the source.................KMG



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:49 PM
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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Quite a lot, actually. Some just don't see the benefits through their anti-Semitism.


Here are several reasons-



There is a broad bipartisan consensus among policymakers that Israel has advanced U.S. interest in the Middle East and beyond.

Israel has successfully prevented victories by radical nationalist movements in Lebanon and Jordan, as well as in Palestine.
Israel has kept Syria, for many years an ally of the Soviet Union, in check.
Israel's air force is predominant throughout the region.
Israel's frequent wars have provided battlefield testing for American arms, often against Soviet weapons.
It has served as a conduit for U.S. arms to regimes and movements too unpopular in the United States for openly granting direct military assistance, such as apartheid South Africa, the Islamic Republic in Iran, the military junta in Guatemala, and the Nicaraguan Contras. Israeli military advisers have assisted the Contras, the Salvadoran junta, and foreign occupation forces in Namibia and Western Sahara.
Israel's intelligence service has assisted the U.S. in intelligence gathering and covert operations.
Israel has missiles capable of reaching as far as the former Soviet Union, it possesses a nuclear arsenal of hundreds of weapons, and it has cooperated with the U.S. military-industrial complex with research and development for new jet fighters and anti-missile defense systems.



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posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:53 PM
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Dooper the reality is that Israel has no intention of attacking Iran...Israel wouldn't broadcast it. They would just do it. They never broadcast these things like this.

In fact it is us who is pressuring them to attack Iran and they are paying a price for having not done it.

We let a key vote proceed against them in the U.N. for the first time in two decades this past Friday.

This is about putting the Shah's son back on the Throne.

Israel doesn't want to take the chance of fighting what is in essence a three front possibly four front war. Hamas out of the West Bank, Hizbollah out of Lebanon, Iranian rockets over head, and the Syrians rushing up the Golan.

The Islamic World will pitch a fit if we go for a third country so we are making Israel do it, and Israel is trying real hard to find a way not to do it.

Like I said buddy, not the best allies!



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:56 PM
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reply to post by stevegmu
 


Hey friend, let me give it to you straight, don't even play the anti-semitism card with me. I am an American and I can darn well talk about WHICH COUNTRY HAS THE MOST AGRESSIVE SPYING OPERATION AGAINST THE U.S. and that's Israel.

You can take your canned little tricks and nonsense and run them up someone elses flag pole friend.

You don't like it move to Israel.

If you live in America you better darn well put this nation first where National Security is Concerned and I don't care if your the Queen of England friend.

End of story.

Take out the Nuclear reactors in Israel because a whole cadre of people who do nothing but play the race card are just to dangerous to allow have nuclear weapons.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:58 PM
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Let me get this right and see if I understand it correctly.

The U.S should shoot down Israeli fighters for illegally bombing a foreign country that has posed no physical threat?

Are we talking about the same U.S that INVADED Iraq, bombed it, and STILL occupy it till this day?

HAHAHA the hypocrisy!

/shakes head in disbelief ....



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 10:58 PM
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Oh and by the way we never had a problem with any of those nations before we started supporting Israel and letting them run our foreign policy and their agents infiltrate our government left and right.

Read the CIA declassified documents on the subject and get a real clue.

Supporting Israel has cost an incacuable damage to our economy and reputation.



[edit on 21/9/09 by ProtoplasmicTraveler]



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 11:01 PM
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reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Oh, of course. All of our problems have been caused by Israel. It seems some can not see through their anti-Semitic fog.



posted on Sep, 21 2009 @ 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by stevegmu
reply to post by ProtoplasmicTraveler
 


Oh, of course. All of our problems have been caused by Israel. It seems some can not see through their anti-Semitic fog.


Sounds like you are an anti-American to me friend, because you only seem interested in Israel and Semites while you live in Washington D.C.?

Sorry but the reality is that Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty, Israel has attacked U.S. Diplomats in Operation Susana, and there is a very high possibility Israel was behind 9-11 too.

America can't afford to keep worrying about Semetic sensibilities while Israeli Agents have infiltrated every sensitive area of American Government and Technology.

I guess you don't like America or Americans, but I do.

If I wanted to make Israel my number one priority I would live there, why don't you?

Enough said!





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