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reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 06:51 PM by double_frick
Originally posted by A Fortiori
reply to post by mikerussellus


Honestly, the swine flu is teetering out so maybe this will not come to pass, yes?

*Crosses fingers and hopes that there isn't a Select Agent alert*

You know *puts on black armband for size* back when everyone was so Gung Ho Patriot Act I asked people if they would still feel the same if Hillary was President instead of Bush and the room would get quiet.

I think we need to ask ourselves every time one of these "infringements" creep up on us: Would we still excuse it or be for it if the opposite party was in charge?

[edit on 17-9-2009 by A Fortiori]


swine flu teetering out? seems like its coming back to the forefront (if only to push this new vaccine)

so far, from what i know, its recombined supposedly into a possibly more virulent strain while in the southern hemisphere flu season and is now, more and more every day, becoming completly tamiflu resistant.

not that i think its a good reason to get a flu shot...but its definitely not an issue thats going anywhere.

and i don't think its a party thing.

anyone on this ATS site that doesn't see that there is only ONE party...and just the illusion of choices all around us...well, i guess lacks understanding?


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 09:32 PM by A Fortiori
reply to post by double_frick


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The death rate from the pandemic H1N1 swine flu is likely lower than earlier estimates, an expert in infectious diseases said on Wednesday.

New estimates suggest that the death rate compares to a moderate year of seasonal influenza, said Dr Marc Lipsitch of Harvard University.

"It's mildest in kids. That's one of the really good pieces of news in this pandemic," Lipsitch told a meeting of flu experts being held by the U.S. Institute of Medicine.

"Barring any changes in the virus, I think we can say we are in a category 1 pandemic. This has not become clear until fairly recently."

The Pandemic Severity Index set by the U.S. government has five categories of pandemic, with a category 1 being comparable to a seasonal flu epidemic.

www.reuters.com...

What will the excuse be now? Select Agent? Terrorism?



reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 09:45 PM by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by A Fortiori


I don't wanna be the bearer of bad news, but just wait. I don't think the strain currently in existence will do anything, but I am betting all that soon We will see an "icky" strain come out. The idea by the Elites is to scare us into the vaccine. I am betting what will emerge is gonna be real ugly, and fly by night. They need the speed in order to scare properly


reply posted on 18-9-2009 @ 10:06 PM by A Fortiori
Originally posted by sanchoearlyjones
reply to post by A Fortiori


I don't wanna be the bearer of bad news, but just wait. I don't think the strain currently in existence will do anything, but I am betting all that soon We will see an "icky" strain come out. The idea by the Elites is to scare us into the vaccine. I am betting what will emerge is gonna be real ugly, and fly by night. They need the speed in order to scare properly


What I am worried about, especially considering what you posted earlier, is a release of a select agent and they miraculously have a vaccine for it in stockpile.


reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 09:37 AM by peppersgc
Hey guys. I know I don’t post often (maybe two or three times) but this thread got me very interested. I work in the health care field and have just been told yesterday that we are going to be required to take the H1N1 vaccine to remain employed. As you can imagine, this got my hackles up a bit. Then I ran across this thread and decided to research the subject of arm bands as I fully intend to wear one. In my internet wanderings I’ve come to a few conclusions that I decided to share, because I am way too inactive at this site. While reading the posts it seems to me that everyone keeps saying the same things, in different ways, over and over again. Like, “We can/can’t use that color/symbol because at some point in history it meant this.”, “Lets use this because it will look cool (in so many words) regardless of whether or not everyone understands it.” or “We shouldn’t use this or that because it will demean/offend some group/ethnicity/historical event.” So, I came up with three simple guide lines that could be followed to come up with an arm band.

1) Keep it simple. Use one solid color and one symbol. To many issues and protested things use colors and symbols today, so it becomes necessary to mix and match one each to be unique.

2) Use colors and symbols for what they mean today, not what they meant in the past, and that are directly meaningful to your cause. Over complication, or trying to tie it into something in the past only leads to confusion and disagreement as so readily evident in this very thread.

3) You simply can't worry about it offending someone. Its GOING to happen. The purpose of the arm band is to protest something being done to you that you feel is wrong. Therefor, the purpose of the arm band is to "Target Offend". Now that doesn't mean use something that you know will offend outside of your "Target". The very mention of the Star of David offended someone, so common sense tells us that its right out.

With that said, whats wrong with a yellow arm band with an upside down American flag. The yellow band represents hope and protest. If we don't have hope that things are going to get better then why protest. And we all know that the flag upside down means distress and is a cry for help. Simple and it gets the point across. Black means your mourning a death. There have been deaths, but we are protesting bracelets and mandatory vaccination. Not the deaths.

On a quick side note, I also fully intend on putting an RFID signal jammer on whatever arm band we agree to. You can get one on the internet that fits in your palm for cheap. I encourage everyone to do this.


reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 11:40 AM by A Fortiori
reply to post by peppersgc


Excellent post!

The upside down flag is a good one. Yellow (I will sound girly, but..) clashes with the red,white,and blue.

Hmmm.

Where is MikeRusselVS when I need him...?


Okay, so our best suggestions thus far:

Symbols:

Upside down US flag
Gadson flag
BioHazard Symbol
Black Triangle

Suggested Colors:

Yellow
Black
Red?


reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 11:49 AM by peppersgc
reply to post by A Fortiori


That about sums it up. I do wonder what an upside down flag with a black triangle in the middle would look like on a black or yellow arm band. Also, the more we make it "clash" the more it will stand out and get noticed.


reply posted on 19-9-2009 @ 02:16 PM by A Fortiori
reply to post by peppersgc


Okay, is this something we vote on?

IF we were to create an armband in protest what symbols would be gain consensus on:

Folks tell us the colors and symbols from the list and why you prefer them.

Symbols

Upside down flag
Bio Hazard Symbol
Black Triangle (Nazi sign for "trouble maker")
Gadson flag

Colors

Black
Yellow
Red
White


reply posted on 26-10-2009 @ 10:31 AM by A Fortiori
reply to post by my_name_is_mud


You are right, my friend. Let's see what they do now.

I will support anyone who willingly chooses to take the vaccine. What I will not support is it being forced upon us. Let's hope they do not.
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