posted on Sep, 16 2009 @ 10:44 AM
Originally posted by heinekennow thats a cool statement..bravo bravo111..i will search for it
Did you find it?
I Googled and found Stormfront as the first result. Dated Oct 4, 2001. The starter of the thread does not list a source for his information. The next
day he/she posts www.iap.org (Islamic Association for Palestine) as the source of his posting and the another poster suggests the source appears to be
yahoo groups address here
posted on Oct. 3, 2001 which itself quotes no sources. An
attempt to access the www.iap.org site this morning returned a 'parked' domain offering links Russian and Jewish women and such. Looking over at
web.archive.org, there are no archives of the site between July 10 and October 12, and since the IAP site is now offline, no way to search that site.
BUT, if you take the October 12 site, click on the link to the right under the "other news stories" header, the one that states "Oct. 10th
Headlines", you get to another web.archive.org page that has a link on it to "Earlier news archives" which takes you to... groups.yahoo.com and
sure enough, in the list on Oct 3, is the groups.yahoo.com post mentioned above.
But let's go to another site for a moment.... Camera
Accurate Middle East Reporting in America) says the following:
Syndicated Columnist Georgie Anne Geyer Uses Fabricated Sharon Quote
In a May 10, 2002 column (“Now Isn’t the Time for Bush League Moves”), nationally-syndicated columnist Georgie Anne Geyer included bogus and
inflammatory allegations against Prime Minister Sharon and Israel’s supporters in America.
First, she wrote:
In fact, it [American support for Israel’s actions] led Prime Minister Sharon to tell his Cabinet recently, “I control America.”
CAMERA conducted extensive Nexis and Internet searches, and found that no mainstream news organization reported as true the fabricated quotation.
The hoax originated with an October 3, 2001 press release from the pro-Hamas group, the Islamic Association for Palestine.
According to the IAP press release, the statement was reported on Kol Yisrael. However, CAMERA’s calls to Kol Yisrael confirmed that no such
UPDATE (June 15, 2002): Geyer Expresses "Regrets"
CAMERA notified Geyer’s editors that the Sharon “quote” originated on a pro-Hamas website (the Islamic Association for Palestine), and that it
had not been corroborated by any reputable media organization. CAMERA also pointed out that IAP’s alleged source, a report on Israel radio, is
apparently fictional – Kol Yisrael denied to CAMERA that it had ever broadcast any such report.
When CAMERA requested substantiation from Geyer, the columnist first asserted that she was abroad and would have to check her notes when she got back
home in June. After CAMERA contacted editor Bruce Dold of the Chicago Tribune (which ran the Geyer column), he replied:
Ms. Geyer does indeed cite the same sources you note [an Islamic Association for Palestine press release that claimed Kol Yisrael radio reported the
Sharon statement] on the Sharon quote. If you have a statement or confirmation from Kol Yisrael, I’d like to see it. As for the second point
[concerning the alleged television ads], that is not a direct quote from an ad, but Geyer’s own interpretation of the nature of the content.
Informed that the Kol Yisrael reporter assigned to cover the Israeli Cabinet [where the Sharon statement was alleged to have been made] denied Sharon
had made the attributed comment, Dold responded with a different story from Geyer. She now claimed that her sources were two anonymous Israelis.
Finally, Geyer’s syndicate disseminated the following Editor’s Note which appeared on June 14 in the Chicago Tribune and Sarasota Herald Tribune
and will likely be published by other papers that ran Geyer’s May 10 column.
Editor’s note: Georgie Anne Geyer’s May 10 column included a quote from Ariel Sharon, 'I control America.’ This quote was widely reported in
the Palestinian press but cannot be confirmed in independent sources. Geyer and Universal Press Syndicate regret not having attributed the quote more
While the syndicate thus admitted that “This quote...cannot be confirmed in independent sources,” it failed to state unambiguously that Sharon
never uttered the words and that the alleged quotation first appeared in a press release from the pro-Hamas IAP. Since IAP said that Kol Yisrael was
their source and Kol Yisrael denies broadcasting any such report, there should be no question that IAP was attempting to perpetrate a hoax. The
syndicate also should have written “alleged quote” whenever referring to the supposed statement by Sharon.
Furthermore, the Editor’s Note implies that the problem was one merely of mistaken attribution – that it would have been acceptable for Geyer to
use the bogus quotation had she cited “Palestinian sources.” Obviously, since these sources have been proven false, the quote should not have been
published at all.
Additionally, the Editor’s Note fails entirely to address the other baseless assertion in Geyer’s May 10 column, her outrageous statement: “Look
at U.S. television: One minute, you see pro-Israeli ads saying the Arabs are all dogs...”
Repeated CAMERA requests for Geyer to identify the specific ad that led to her “interpretation” have gone unanswered. Clearly there is no way that
her readers could have understood that she was “interpreting” rather than paraphrasing or quoting from a supposed ad. Since it is extremely
unlikely that any “U.S. television” station would have broadcast any such ad, Geyer and her syndicate owe her readers another “Editor’s
Note” or apology.
It appears the comment on Rense on other sites is a fabrication that has pepetuated through some channels of the media and is being presented as fact.
Therefore, if one contends that Ahmadinejad didn't say what Iran's news said he said, one must also admit that the alleged statement by Sharon is
untrue because the Kol Yisrael reporter quoted in the IAP (yahoo group) article has said Sharon didn't say that.
But who would you believe first- Iran's own news agency or a biased yahoo! group?
[edit on 9/16/2009 by abecedarian]