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reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 01:40 PM by tothetenthpower
reply to post by venividivici


Let's not forget that we are the ones doing the killing, not the dolphins my friend.

~Keeper


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 01:43 PM by antar
These guys need such acclaim for having the courage and the luck to get this out to the public.



These heroes need to be interviewed here on AT News and I am publicly asking them to contact me, we will see.

They are everything we represent and then some.

[edit on 15-9-2009 by antar]



reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 02:07 PM by antar
reply to post by On the level


We are not yet an advanced society, not a single one on the planet.

When you watch these types of videos you pass the information on and it becomes impossible for this type of action to sustain itself. It is only when we run from our responsibility that this kind of torture continues and in fact the purpetrators of such atrocities can and will do the smae to humans given the order! They not only count on others being to shocked and sensitive to do anything about it, they pray that this is the case.


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 02:45 PM by Asktheanimals
OK flame away people but what is the difference between killing
dolphins for food or any other animal? To put it this way let's say
you were a cattle rancher and hordes of japanese environmentalists
descended on your ranch and tried to stop you from the "senseless
slaughter" of their bovine friends?

Being in Japan this has probably been going on for many hundreds
of years. Man will always take advantage of any plentiful source of
food, regardless of species. What sea animals do the Japanese NOT
eat?

Dolphins are a very intelligent and graceful species and their curiosity
is part of their downfall in the case of the harvesting that goes on. I try
to see the beauty in all creatures, not just the ones that have base
appeal to our human aesthetics. Where do you propose we draw the
line on what animals are ok to eat and which aren't?

Many would wish a complete end to killing whales, who could argue
with that? Starving Eskimos and Inuit could. Without whales their
traditional way of life will end. Is it our job to tell them that their way
of life is wrong? Are they immoral for killing whales as their ancestors
have done for thousands of years?

I think being vegan is a very good thing but do you convince others
to become vegan by demonizing them? No, you point out the
advantages of veganism and educate them about such issues as
factory farming and productivity per acre. The same principal should
apply here. Tactics of harsh opposition only gain one enemies, not
converts and it will take that change to make the world a better place.

Propaganda comes from every corner, even environmentalists. From
what I saw it looked very much like it. Dehumanize your opponent and
infer a moral superiority by using extreme rhetoric and images.

Even if meat is murder you cannot expect the world to change,
particularly if you're going to paint them with a brush of inhumanity.
Make friends first, then you might have the chance to educate them.


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 02:51 PM by antar
reply to post by Ask The Animals


Ok here's the thing, hundreds of years ago, not to mention thousands, we were IGNORANT of our global species specifically the dolphin who happens to be the closest related mammal to us the humans.

We now are supposedly more advanced, compassionate and intelligent.

We have watched so many become endangered, if we loose the dolphin we are doomed.



reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 03:02 PM by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by antar


We humans are despicable aren't we? While most animals kill only for survival our complex brains have led us to do horrific things...

And we wonder why aliens won't stop and say hello


reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 03:32 PM by Asktheanimals
reply to post by antar


I find your passion commendable but I still think it's unfair for any of
us to impose our values on others. Peoples in the jungles of the equatorial
regions regularly kill and eat apes and monkeys (our closest relatives)
Does this make them immoral as well?

I read in the article where some dolphins were selected to be sent to
aquariums worldwide. While my gut reaction to seeing any wild creature
locked in a cage or pool (in this case) is negative there is still the
argument that these animals are being sacrificed to help educate people
(particularly inner-city kids) and bring nature up close. These zoos and
aquariums bring people face to face with the beauty of nature up close to
millions who would otherwise never see them. In so doing we create a
constituency that will help support environmental efforts. People learn to
care about nature and by extension, man. It's still a cruel fate for any
wild animal yet it fills a great need in our world.

The biggest problem I feel is that some think we can pick and choose
what we like about nature and what we don't. It's easy to love dolphins
and pandas, pretty flowers and a bright sunny day. Nature is a package
deal as we all know intellectually. There would be no pandas or flowers or
pretty days if it weren't for slugs, mosquitos and rainy days. Nature is a
circle, it requires every part to be in balance regardless of whether we can
find anything useful or lovable about it.

Again, I find your passion commendable and authentic. I would just ask
you to look a little deeper into the cultures that commit these acts before
you fault them for doing so. Like everyone else on the planet, these people
are just trying to keep themselves fed and make a better life for their
children. In the end is it malice or just misunderstanding?

Without building trust, we can never hope to educate. Make friends first, converts later.

In NO WAY do I condone the killing of endangered species or killing for
sport. I just wanted to be clear about that. Thanks for listening.

[edit on 15-9-2009 by Asktheanimals]
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