What hit the pentagon on 9/11/01?

Yes, but truck bombs were not all that they were worried about. Getting Marines out in the parking lot was not their only concern.

I don't know why, perhaps it is a sense of "going native" while working for the military, but I kind of resent people treating the military like short term, one dimensional thinkers. Their weapons systems don't show that. Their strategic defense planning does not show that. They have war-gamed a defense of the Pentagon, the Capital, etc.

Now, I believe their weapons were "stand down" because of some reason--maybe the drills that morning, but they do have strategic defense weaponry. This isn't 1950. This isn't even 1990. This was in 2001. They were prepared for terrorists who had missiles, shoulder arms, truck bombs, etc.

Our military is mismanaged by politicians, but they are, in fact, the best frickin' standing military in the world. Bar none. Someone made a decision and here we are, but having been around Congressmen and the military, my bet is on a politician screwing this up, not the US Armed Forces. They are organized, they are long term strategic thinkers, they are planners, they are innovators!

And now that I am "hot"...to my my friends at Quantico..."Oooorah!"

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Swampfox, did you post the link to the DNA results yet and I missed it?

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For another thing, there isnt "A" autopsy report. There would be multiple reports. I do not know if they even issue an actual autopsy report (as they are conventionally understood) for DNA reports on remains found.

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I posted a link to one of the AFIP reports on the subject earlier. When I have a chance I will try to dig up some of the other reports that are out there.

Casual readers to the thread, read the above and see how Joey has destroyed his own arguments.

A Fortiori has stated that cameras on top of buildings are there to survey the grounds for approaching vehicles. Joey agreed with this.

Allegedly, the official government story has the alleged Flight AA77 approaching the Pentagon on a low, flat path... in other words, it's an approaching vehicle.

Therefore, according to Joey, the roof mounted cameras should have seen this activity.

Why do some official government story believers state that the roof mounted cameras didn't see anything, when Joey (an official government story believer) has just stated that the cameras would see approaching vehicles?

I wish that the official government story believers would make consistent claims, without contradicting each other.

Thanks, Swampfox. I think if everyone chipped in their expertise we would have good discussions. I may not always agree with WW he brings so much value.

Hmmmm....you might want to tell that to the office that has released the results of the autopsies then. Yes, there would be an autopsy for each and every set of remains but the report of the autopsy findings from the supposed plane crash at the Pentagon are all in one report. A simple FOIA request will get you your very own copy.

You claimed to be so sure about the results before? You told me that I was wrong about the terrorist DNA. Now you claim you have not even actually seen what the results of the 'autopsies' were? Interesting how you can be so certain of things and then when pressed for info, have a nice reason why you do not have said info.

Can you back any of this up? Can you post something other than some personal website that actually goes over this? You seem to keep making claims that actually contradict the story being put out by the officials in charge that day. Do you have info they did not have access to? Did they just make things up because you would not share your secrets?

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Which part of "conventionally understood" did you not understand? Conventional autopsy reports consist of assessments of the organs, height, weight, toxicology tests...all things you are not going to get from an arm or a charred torso etc...

What?????????????

What the hell are you even trying to say here? You are right, I do not understand you. An autopsy is an autopsy. They do not have categories. Are you trying to claim there are two separate sets of autopsy results? What are you saying?

Why are you trying to twist and dodge? You said you do not know if they have autopsy results for things like this. I have told you a few times now that yes there are autopsy results for every name on the passenger list. I know it blows a big hole in your story but it is true.

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Thanks for answering my questions!

1. What holes did it shoot? It proved nothing, demonstrated nothing, and was evidence of nothing. How does that shoot any holes in anything. Please explain,

2. What have I ever shifted on? You are going to have to provide an example or stand as a bald faced liar. You pick.

Hey pssssssssssssst, swampy - please explain what it is that I am shifting on. My opinions have never once changed unless undeniable evidence is presented causing me to to gumble myself and admit I was wrong. You have yet to either do that or present my ever changing positions you speak of. Please explain your personal attacks.



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I have given you many opportunities to admit you are wrong. Now you are FORCED to admit you are wrong.