look, if you truly want to change an advisary like the massive capitalistic players of this world, to give regular people a better life, rather then slowly spiraling downward to a slave/master world, you have to find their weaknesses. they have the power to buy people off directly, or have other people paid to do them and their familes physical harm. they have the ability to create chaos, uncertainty, and division with their money. you have to locate their weakness, their achilles heel, so to speak.

To Nixie nox and jimmy x:

All I see from you 2 in this post is condescension, and no real contribution.

If that is all you can supply and cannot add dialog to the thread....please....GTFO

Originally posted by Remixtup
To Nixie nox and jimmy x:

All I see from you 2 in this post is condescension, and no real contribution.

If that is all you can supply and cannot add dialog to the thread....please....GTFO

Well, thank you, I think, for the comment.

Be sure and remember, Moderators are not to far away to stop infighting.

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Violence is never the answer and I can see this thread might turn into an ugly fight.

It seems slightly hostile, like a bar fight, just before someone slams a beer bottle over someone's head.

Please, while I cannot condone Obama's inaction, do not take action causing divisiveness.

There is room for discussion here, whether anyone sees eye to eye, or not.

Just want to congratulate you on a fantastic thread. Your words are raw, honest and real. You are a true patriot to your country. S&F.

Be forewarned: the following is an Obama defense post. So either completely ignore it and flame me in a new post, or read it, and then flame me in a new post.

Originally posted by SpartanKingLeonidas
What is so funny, in a sad ironic state of the word funny, is Obama thinks we need or care about a piece of crap Healthcare Reform bill when what we really need is for the economy to be kicked in the keister and jobs to start opening up again because without jobs there will be no need for “Healthcare Reform” because we as citizen will not give a damn being unable to afford even rudimentary health costs without work in which to pay for our gas to drive to the doctor, let alone be able to afford hospital bills.

This statement is a bit contradictory to what you were just saying about the national debt. You see, if you think the national debt is bad now, just wait and see what it will be in 10 years from now, with the increased cost of healthcare. You see, medicare and medicaid add to the cost of the national debt. In 10 years time, without -some kind- of health care reform, we can expect the national debt to be outrageous. Now do not get me wrong here, I am not advocating Obama's current health care plan, but I am advocating that without -some kind- of health care reform, you can be sure that the current national debt will pale in comparison to what it would be 10 years from now.

[snip] but then again you do not give a damn about America really, do you President Obama?

This is a pretty bold statement. If Obama didn't truly care about Americans, why would he be putting his entire political career on the line over trying to lower the national debt, and providing health care for the American people? If he really didn't care about Americans, he would do what other presidents do to ensure their re-election, which is either absolutely nothing, or by using some kind of Nationalism effect such as a tragedy; aka 9-11. I on the other hand think Obama truly does care about the country, and he is willing to put his political career on the line for it.

This is all I am seeing and hearing coming from you with false promises of the future, hope, and change, but what we have not seen is our future, hope, nor change, except from one idiot to one man who sold us a lie to get into the White House and do absolutely nothing to change America except screw us even worse than that idiot who has a residence in Crawford Texas because you, Mr. Obama, have failed us as a country.

Holy crap man, he has only been in office for nine months! You are speaking of promises of the future, hope, and change, but you have only given the man nine months to do so?!? Open your eyes a bit more and look around you! We have successfully pulled the majority of our troops out of Iraq. That is a GREAT change! Obama is trying to do something about our skyrocketing national debt, this is GREAT change! You talk about the future, but you don't even give him a chance to get anything done! Things in the US do not change overnight! It takes time!

Be careful President Obama because you are slowly climbing a slippery slope and no one will bail you out or pick you up when you fall because American’s are watching you and they do not like what they are continually seeing, a lack of backbone, a lack of commitment, and a lack of authority.

Someone with a lack of backbone would have given up on the health care bill already. Someone with lack of commitment would have given up already! A lack of authority? Authoritarian uses of power are exactly what Bush used to destroy many of our freedoms! I am glad Obama has not done this!

That is not me speaking, only typing what I hear from each and every American I come into contact with

Well, now you know one American who've you come into contact with that completely disagrees with you.




Oh and by the way, please use periods in your sentences. Reading text blobs such as the following one, as one sentence, is very annoying.

If you think this is just another Obama trashing thread you will be sadly mistaken because it is not, as you can see from the above thread I was railing against his idiot predecessor, George W Bush as well as the Congressional thieves who allot our money wherever they want without using fair discretion nor forethought of how the American public will see it as time wears on, speaking of course of the trillions of deficit we are now in because of a completely uncalled for war where the United Nations Security Council tried many times unsuccessfully to stymie Saddam Hussein, not because of his intelligence, but because of his refusing to be sanctioned by the United Nations due to alliances with Russia, France, and China and their seeming total corruption in walking Hussein through the Oil for Food scam in order to give himself many billions and screw his Iraqi people which is more and more seeming to mirror what we are now seeing here in America with the Bailout Package which we are supposed to believe is beneficial to our country through giving banks more money to loan to citizens who are already having their mortgages foreclosed on, vehicles repossessed, and still others kicked out onto the streets because of a lack of ability to pay our bills because of the lack of a job market.

That is one hell of a run on sentence.




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