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IDF Shoots Man In Foot While Handcuffed; Video Banned From Youtube.

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posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:09 AM
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reply to post by BaronVonGodzilla
 



Originally posted by OmegaLogos
Disclaimer: As above!


Explanation: Found him!


Ashraf Abu Rahma [Source: Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine website]

And here are some other websites articles covering the same issue and revealing more tidbits of info....

www.haaretz.com...

Above article is mirrored here....

blogs.abcnews.com...

And the original video is mirrored here and is also covered again by Al Jazeera’s Emma Hayward in a 2nd video!....

www.bilin-village.org...

Personal Disclosure: YAY! Go the internet!
Its like the hotel california...onces its up there it can never leave!


I'm not going to get offended by someone speaking their mind
Omegalogos did some excellent research here. Take a look at the links.

I agree the footage isn't the best, but You can see what's going on; rifle pointed, soldier hesitates, recoil, and flash of the muzzle.

I would at least like to see this seriously addressed in the MSM.


Oh, always speak up, and don't be afraid to affend. It's Your right!




posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:14 AM
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Two important issues here.

1) It was deleted from youtube, which is most telling.

2) Blatant disregard for human life.

Israeli government you make me sick, period.

'Nuff said.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:23 AM
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That's it. I'm flying to isreal to find that man and cut him with my knife.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:26 AM
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Guys, do not criticize the video or israeli soldier's action shown in it.
That would be so racist and anti-semitic, right?



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:33 AM
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reply to post by BlackShark
 


You're right.

I'm sorry IDF, and to the Zionist government, please don't hunt me down, tie me up, blind-fold me, then shoot me.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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And they wonder why they have to build walls and fences to keep these people away!

If that was my brother or even friend, I'd still want to rip the teeth out of every IDF devil.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by St Vaast
Who has the power to 'ban' a video on You Tube ?

They shot the Palestinian in the open, surrounded by witnesses


So what's the deal with these lying Israelis ?


They're game to shoot someone in front of Palestinians .. because they don't give a damn what Palestinians say ... and because they figure NO one will believe Palestinian witnessess and victims ONCE the lol 'israeli authorities' are finished defaming and discrediting them ?

BUT .. they don't want the WORLD seeing what goes on because it's a lot harder for israel to threaten and discredit the entire world ?

SO .. in order the world will NOT see the indisputable evidence

they BAN that evidence

they COVER UP and lie about the evidence


Here you go israel .. deal with this: you've been shown to be blatant liars and to have REMOVED evidence that blows-away your lies

so from now ON --- I will not believe a damn word that comes out of israel's lying mouth. End of, israel. Don't lie to me again


Couldn't have said it better my friend


Glad we find a subject we can agree on!



[edit on 31-8-2009 by breakingdradles]



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 12:45 PM
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"Just carrying out orders" was this soldiers excuse.

How many soldiers "just carry out orders" everyday around the world? How many prisoners are tortured by soldiers "just carrying out orders"?

Soldiers such as these are just mindless puppets, if you ask me.

I don't know how the Israeli army operates, but American soldiers have the right to refuse an order such as this. But, would they? I really doubt that most would. Because they're trained to "carry out orders".

I'd like to think that if there were ever Martial Law declared and the government starting locking up civilians, that some soldiers would deny orders so that they could uphold the oath that they're sworn to ... but I really doubt they would. They'd just "carry out orders" like a good soldier is trained to do, then hide behind the order, like a coward ... as this soldier did.

[edit on 31-8-2009 by tyranny22]



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 02:02 PM
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So what? This isn't new. Israeli soldiers have always done hideous acts such as this one.

Israel consists of hypocrisy. Jews who carry on how they were so mistreated but yet are the same people who commit mass murder against their neighbors.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 02:31 PM
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Thought this sounded familiar. I remember seeing this video months ago, unless I am having an incredibly vivid case of Deja vu?

I'll have to dig around a bit when I get a moment but I am sure this is the same video I remember.

It's hardly surprising that the censorship folks jumped on it so quickly, which seems par for the course these days and should serve a reminder to everyone about just how powerful the state of Israel really is. Not only are they strong militarily (mostly against lightly armed opponents or unarmed women and children), they also have a well embedded corps of "helpers" in most countries, ready to do what is necessary or ordered to protect the reputation of Israel.... or maybe it's even worse than that?

Up to their eyeballs in political corruption, both at home and in our countries too, they have a lot of control over what WE are allowed to read, view and discuss openly in the counties of our birth where, apparently, we have such things as freedom of speech! Yep, freedom to say what we like, as long as it's not critical of Israel and it's barbaric actions.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 02:32 PM
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Hi,

read all the post's. Imagine if We all cross posted atrocities like this across the web, then no military in the World would be able to get away with it.

You can see the look on the that young soldiers face almost; his body language is the most telling. I'm sure he was just stupidly following whatever atrocity he was told, but imagine now with the Internet, We can all teach military, or People involved in war that their actions are accountable, and justice will be served at some point. Just a matter of time



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 03:23 PM
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It's grown up business,

the subconscious need to project the penis into other people's affairs.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 03:31 PM
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I find it odd that in the moment of the shot the camera moves away from the "victim".



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 03:39 PM
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Thank you for bringing this to our attention, I could have gone my whole life without watching this.

Something that people here need to understand is that this isn't one sided. This thing happens to both Israelis and Palestinians. I can't even imagine the repercussions of this video. Its funny, us humans want vengeance and violence after seeing this sort of thing. Its only till the vengeance reaches back to someone you know, that you want to solve things out peacefully.

This video might not have reached headlines but it gained some attention. But when it gains attention, there are many feelings running around. Some for sympathy, sadness, anger and most likely someone out there of joy. These feelings can help a difference, whether in a positive way or negative.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 03:44 PM
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reply to post by ahumanbeing
 


This was allegedly filmed by a little girl on her cell phone cam. I guess when she heard the shot she ducked. I would have done the same thing.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 03:46 PM
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I think the People with the camera were shocked; I don't think I would have expected something like that to have occurred.

Omegalogos provided some excellent links to this story; it has apparently progressed, and has been authenticated.

reply to post by Trams
 


Thank You.

The entire World should be about truth, and dignity. Bringing things like this to light may indeed help righteousness come forth.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 10:18 PM
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Disclaimer: As elsewhere!

Explanation: Ok I got about 1hr left to start posting my drafts.

Since yesterday I have put in quite a bit of effort and this is what I've got so far [Phages "get your facts 1st" signature is BOOMING in my skull!]

The incident in question happened over a year ago on July 7 2008 in the West Bank village of Nil'in. It took just under 2wks for the video to reach B'Tsalem who then posted it on their website [ORIGINAL SOURCE] on the 20th July 2008.

The video was mirrored the same day on the www.bilin-village.org... alongside Emma Hayward's Al-Jezzera video report.

The story was then mirrored on blogs.abcnews.com... on the 21st July 2008 [
MSM outlet! page includes link to video!] and on www.haaretz.com... on the 22nd July 2008. [seems to me mike was a bit late...1 yr late! And ABC may now own the rights to the vid as its on their website! I'll ask them OK!
]

Then the Palestinian Front for the Liberation of Plalestine website posted a story on or after August 8th 2008 [No date for articles posting! Note even when veiwing the source!
] where the victim [Ashraf Abu Rahma] was honoured and the story retold.

OK thats all the links I previously provided in chronological order!

Now before I press on with more info I have come up with I need to seriously debunk the youtube incident in regards to the other video being used as an example! [RE: Neda's death] Its been removed and reposted and removed and reposted multiple times. The current Neda video on youtube was posted less than 2mths ago and I'm sure it will be pulled down if it gets flagged! Seems St Vaast's idea has sorta worked for that vid in this case! Anyway I'll ping youtube on this incongruency when I contact them OK!

Moving on I found out the name of the soldier who fired the shot and I investigated the ramifications that happened to him and his superior officer.

The Names of the Perpetrators.....

Lieutenant-Colonel Omri Bruberg and Staff-Sargebt L [Source]

Note that the name of the officer involved was misreported!

Personal Disclosure: OMG! its lunchtime! I hope the berrating has started. Geez I'm soooo slack! If I have anything wrong so far please deny my ignorace ASAP OK!

P.S. More to come and SOON!



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 10:26 PM
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Er, I do not know the full story, but WRH, aka mike had posted this video long ago. I do think he was one of the original People to air it. He had asked for People to spread the video, but it was along the lines of re spread. I remember seeing it along time ago on his site.....in other words he had it directly uploaded to his site. as in a wrh video, but that's all I know.



posted on Aug, 31 2009 @ 11:55 PM
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Dsiclaimer: As elsewhere!

Explanation: I just checked out mikes website WRH and unfortunately for him he was months too late as the 1st time he posted about this was on the 6th of October 2008! [WRH Source] This was well after ABC posted it and as I said above that they may have purchased rights to the video and that might just kybosh his no copyright claims!

Personal Disclosure: It seems that the perpetrators were punished but very punitively!
I'm still going to write to the Israeli embassy and ask them their position on warcrimes and warcriminals and I'll wait for their response before trapping them in their own hypocricy!



posted on Sep, 1 2009 @ 02:40 AM
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Disclaimer: As elsewhere!

Explanation: I'm going to use the formal letter style approved by my current & ex-public servant friends and family! [I was specifically warned not to goodwins myself!
very good point huh!]

Basically this layout!

[right aligned] My address.

[right aligned] The date.

[left aligned] The sendee's address.

[left aligned] The sendee's name and title.

[left aligned] Main body of my text. [Note I go into details below OK!]

[left aligned] Sign off. Yours Sincerely OM. [I'll use my real name and sign it as well! I'll scan the originals and post them here before I send them.]

These are the people/organizations I'm contacting and what I'll ask them!
[I've decided a long run approach is best and I'll keep the letters short and sharp and I'll follow up with more as the answers come! I'll scan and post their replies here as well.]]

YouTube: As a consumer of your products I value the service you provide! Unfortunately I have recently been informed of a video that was banned recently by your organization and I am seeking conformation as to whether it was banned because it breached your Terms of Service, specifically "No#7. Account Termination Policy: [Subsection] B. YouTube reserves the right to decide whether Content or a User Submission is appropriate and complies with these Terms of Service for violations other than copyright infringement, such as, but not limited to, pornography, obscene or defamatory material, or excessive length. YouTube may remove such User Submissions and/or terminate a User's access for uploading such material in violation of these Terms of Service at any time, without prior notice and at its sole discretion."? [Note I'll include several web addys to the banned video!]

Personal Disclosure: I will Post more in a couple of hrs as I'm run off my feet ATM! :shk: Bit off more than I can chew right now!

For those who still think youtubes reach negates their Terms of Service and or their Community Guidelines [specifically "Don't Cross the Line
Here are some common-sense rules that will help you steer clear of trouble:

[edit: Redacted by OM]
Graphic or gratuitous violence is not allowed. If your video shows someone getting hurt, attacked, or humiliated, don't post it.
YouTube is not a shock site. Don't post gross-out videos of accidents, dead bodies and similar things.

[edit: Redacted by OM]
We encourage free speech and defend everyone's right to express unpopular points of view ....[edit: Redacted by OM]
Please take these rules seriously and take them to heart. Don't try to look for loopholes or try to lawyer your way around them—just understand them and try to respect the spirit in which they were created. Violations of the Terms of Use may result in a warning notification or termination of your account. If your account is terminated you are prohibited from creating any new accounts."] NOTE: all bolds, italics and redaction edits are purely my emphasis!

Edited hrs later for spelling mistake in letter format! Changed senders to sendee's! :shk: I'm still so preview post challanged! I suck!


[edit on 1-9-2009 by OmegaLogos]



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