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Obama Joker posters/shirts how do you guys feel about them?

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posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 06:16 AM
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So i have been seeing a lot of buzz about the Obama Joker posters/shirts/hats etc. going around these days.
Im generally curious what are your thoughts on them?

I FOR ONE am very pleased with them. I was a big Obama supporter when he was being elected. Now that hes president my taste has undoubtedly changed. IN MY point of view, he literally lied about EVERYTHING he said he was going to change.
healthcare, war, oil, etc.

all seem to be the EXACT OPPOSITE.
whether its negative or positive im glad to see our country, or at least a few, had enough and actually TOOK SOME sort of action. Many of us complain and B**** non stop, but yet do absolutely nothing. It pleases me to see Americans are remembering what one of the things were founded off of. FREEDOM OF SPEECH













posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 06:24 AM
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The posters don't bother me one way or the other. It's a statement of opinion. I disagree with the sentiment, but strongly support the people's right to express their opinions.

Off topic: Your avatar is strobe-like and I have seizures. I have to move it off the page to read your posts, so I won't be reading them in the future. Sorry.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 06:25 AM
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I don't care about the poster. I didn't care when they did it to Bush43 and I don't care that they are doing ti to Obama. What I DO care about is that the gov't is going after the artist.

Germany 1939



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 07:51 AM
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I support his right to make such a poster, but myself, I don't care for them. I'm certainly no Obama supporter, but I find ridicule in this manner to be distasteful, even if I do strongly disagree with him.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 08:04 AM
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I also strongly support a person's right to display them, wear the t -shirts -- whatever. Personally, I don't care for manipulations of any president's photo; like the President or not, I think the office deserves more respect than that.

I wonder sometimes, though, what would be the response if a cartoon was created called "Lil' O" along the lines of the Lil Bush cartoon. I found the Lil' Bush to be occasionally funny, but mostly not. A person becomes president, and they open themselves up to being lampooned; In these times of vast media, I suppose that makes more opportunity to do so. I have serious questions about some of President Obama's works, but I'd never display or wear one of the Jokers. To do so (for me) would tend to paint me into a box of others' beliefs, some of which I don't agree with.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 08:10 AM
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People like to play with the image of ANY president, it's silly, there are better ways to make a point. When Bush was president there was an abundance of photos and manipulated images of him all over the place, many were, quite frankly, extremely funny.

I don't see many people laughing at this one of president Obama.

Why?

Political humor and parody = freedom of expression. Be thankful we live in a nation where people are free to do these things without fear of censorship or worse.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 08:16 AM
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I care about them. But only in the capacity that I truly hope that the creator gets the royalties that belongs to him. People are free to voice whatever opinion they have imho.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 08:42 AM
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I care about the right to do it, but I don't see the point in advertising negative side of things.

I would rather put up a pro stance message, as in What I am, not what you are type of thing.

I do retain my right to call Obama and any others a real turd, but I won't be posting a sign around town about it.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 08:50 AM
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Trivia, don't care one way or the other.
I do find those that think it's indicative of something amusing though.
I didn't pay any attention to similar Bush stuff either.
As art it is so so, not particularly creative, who cares about the "joker" except kids?
It is interesting that the version you show has been altered, the original version doesn'e have " socialism" included.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 10:53 AM
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MODERATORS:
i dont know why you move my thread HERE. It wasn't a political question, it was a general question about your view on it. I didnt ask to chime in on your POLITICAL STANDPOINT on this [CURRENT] event that is sweeping the nation.

Non the less its good to see you guys "doing work" and moving threads, rather then using your time and energy erasing and deleting comments on forums that are more practical jokes, and less than the point of the thread.
Using your energy wisely. I like it



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 11:21 AM
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If some people can get away with soaking one Messiah in urine and calling it art, then portraying the other messiah as a "joker" most certainly qualifies.
What I don't understand is why more people are offended by the latter form of expression.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 11:25 AM
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The thread is about a politician. Obama being the President and all and it is his face on the t shirts. Don't freak out just because your thread was moved. You get the same amount of points for stars and flags.

On topic.

Where can I get one and can I get one without the word socialist underneath the pic. I rather someone see his face made up as the joker and have their minds run wild over what it could mean.

Does he dress as a female nurse and blow up hospitals?
Is he a raving lunatic?
Is he a sociopath?
Is he joking all the time because he doesn't like to be serious?

The human mind is great when let loose with a small idea ingrained into their minds.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by jd140

Where can I get one and can I get one without the word socialist underneath the pic.


You're right, it is a nice picture.
I didn't see the movie so I don't see the connection with socialism, but I think this pic is more appropriate.



If people start wearing this t-shirt, there will be blood.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by jd140
reply to post by kaskade
 


The thread is about a politician. Obama being the President and all and it is his face on the t shirts. Don't freak out just because your thread was moved. You get the same amount of points for stars and flags.

On topic.

Where can I get one and can I get one without the word socialist underneath the pic. I rather someone see his face made up as the joker and have their minds run wild over what it could mean.

Does he dress as a female nurse and blow up hospitals?
Is he a raving lunatic?
Is he a sociopath?
Is he joking all the time because he doesn't like to be serious?

The human mind is great when let loose with a small idea ingrained into their minds.



It's a current event thats going on. I dont see half of the threads here being moved to politicians and people, when its talking about if we think hes the anti-christ or not. I put it in the right section. You chose to categorize it in a section that it wasn't meant to be. I ASKED AN OPINION, not a political opinion or view. And the question was about how you feel about the president's face being on T-SHIRTS, and POSTERS. in no way does that say politics and people.

If the moderators are so concerned about "what is right and wrong" and what is important. Perhaps they should use there time wisely and erase/delete comments on threads where people write nothing but 3 words, in a jocking manner.
If your going to be a moderator, actually do what your job entitles.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:42 PM
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Well the guy who created it, is a 20 year old history major (i believe), he was doing something for class, how to manipulate on photoshop. He seen a tutorial that showed how to photoshop the joker make-up on any photo.
so he grabed the image from times magazine, and 4 hours you have what you see.
He uploaded it onto his flickr account. A few days later someone seen it, printed the image and put socialist under it, and hung the posters around town.
He said he figured it would be the funniest/hardest to design a picture of joker makeup on the president, in no way was it to be used in the manner it was.
Basically a guy who was bored, and wanted to try something new on photoshop, and the picture was saved and printed for there own use.
So the real meaning has none, other than creativity lol



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:44 PM
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I thought this was a very interesting one my friend made




posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:46 PM
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The joker was an anarchist. So I don't know why thyey thought it was clever.

Now the guy was a sociopath and if they had put that underneath the pic then that would have been more appropriate.

If you made a few shirts with that pic you posted I would buy one from you and wear it.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:47 PM
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Cool story bro. Only one problem, the original image had been on flickr since january. Better luck next time



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
The posters don't bother me one way or the other. It's a statement of opinion. I disagree with the sentiment, but strongly support the people's right to express their opinions.

Off topic: Your avatar is strobe-like and I have seizures. I have to move it off the page to read your posts, so I won't be reading them in the future. Sorry.


im sorry i didn't realize you suffered from dyslexia. Perhaps you should stay off the internet because as you put it, "there are many strobe-like images on the internet"

lol really it changes from 4 images slow.



posted on Aug, 26 2009 @ 01:53 PM
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I think such artwork is a protected Freedom under the First Amendment of the US Constitution.

I may not consider it to be Artful, but I recognize it to be Art. Whether or not it is considered tasteful or offensive by some people is irrelevant to whether it should be allowable. So long as it is modified by at least 35% from the original photograph, then it is allowable by law.

In this particular instance, the Yahoo! Copyright Team at Flickr claimed to have received a complete Notice of Infringement of Intellectual Property as outlined by the DMCA (Digitial Millenium Copyright Act) and censored the image. Not only was this wrong because the IP Holder, or his legal representatives, did not initiate this, but also because a political parody is protected under Fair Use, as well as Free Speech.

The only complaint I personally have with this particular piece of Art is that wasn't the Joker an Anarchist, rather than a Socialist?
(EDIT: And apparently I type too slow as someone else already said the same thing before I could click on POST!)

[edit on 26-8-2009 by fraterormus]




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