Since seems that many things that they say is calumny, slander, bs, why not?

I bet there are tons of lawyers/attorneys that are "bros".

Because they would have to prove them wrong... That means giving up secrets, we all know they would never do that.

Also i think they like the attention to much.

Originally posted by refuse_orders
Because they would have to prove them wrong... That means giving up secrets, we all know they would never do that.

Also i think they like the attention to much.

true, negative publicity is still publicity, and its free. and they would NEVER risk giving up their secrets. they are not a secret society, they are a society with secrets.

[edit on 22-8-2009 by 11b1p]

it's been going on for hundreds of years. It always has been and always will be. People fear what they do not know and therefore make up theories about that unknown culture/group/society/etc... that best fits their own beliefs.

Here are some more reasons.

1. Discovery

During a lawsuit, the parties go through a phase called discovery where they are able to look at any evidence the other parties have or could possibly have. Discovery in the US is liberal and pretty much allows any party in a lawsuit to snoop into the other parties business. If secret societies like freemasons filed lawsuits, defendants could use discovery to obtain secret ritual books, membership lists, and all sorts of other inoformation the societies would like to keep secret.

2. Free Speech Issues

Under the first amendment, most defamation lawsuits filed by secret societies will be thrown out. According to the US supreme court, the first amendment requires that the plaintiff in a defamation suit show the defamatory statements were intentional falsehoods or made with a reckless disregard for the truth.

Here, many statements made about secret societies concern issues of public concern like world domination or mass brainwashings. The only way the Masons would prevail is if they could prove the people making these statements willfully lied or were reckless with regards to the truth. Since many conspiracy theorists are not intentionally lying, the masons would have a difficult time prevailing.

Furthermore, many states have anti- SLAPP suit laws. SLAPP suits (Strategic Lawsuits Against Public Participation) are defamation suits that people file to get people to shut up. An example of this is when Beef farmers sued Oprah because she did a piece on mad cow disease. The Beef farmers knew they would not prevail, yet they insisted on engaging in a long, drawn out lawsuit with Oprah so others would be deterred from saying bad things about beef.

If freemasons or other secret societies filed suits against conspiracy theorists, they could be subjecting themselves to penalties under anti-SLAPP suit laws.

Originally posted by infobrazil
Since seems that many things that they say is calumny, slander, bs, why not?

If it is in print, like it is on this website it is libel.

Firstly, libel laws in the United States, as already mentioned, are rather liberal.

Secondly, I have not seen any personally directed libel. It is more of a general insult along the lines of, "Masons are Satantnists" or "Masons are trying to harvets your children's organs". It is similar to someone saying all Catholics, Muslims or Jews are fanaticals, typing the Elks are Luciferian, or writing all politicians are thieves.

They are too broadbased to be seriously considered libelous in the United States. If however, you target individual Masons, Catholics, Muslims, Politicians, etc. by name and make the same accusations then you would be well advised to have some tangible proof to support your claims.








[edit on 23-8-2009 by AugustusMasonicus]

Why make a fuss about people with sad life's, that have nothing better to do with their time than sit and spout rubbish to get a reaction.

The Masonic is a glorious and fine order and it's up to them to prove otherwise, and at the end of the day they can't!

Thing is, to prove slander or libel, the law requires that a hypothetical "reasonable person" would take such slander or libel seriously and actually believe it, causing actual harm to the victim being libelled or slandered. It is assumed that the "reasonable person" will not take the average anti-Mason seriously.

imo, this thread is a perfect exemple of masons' wolf pack, using fear mongering to control a conspiracy site.

You only succeeded to proved, that your desire, to control information about freemasonry in this site, is your only goal and you are ready to do what ever will be needed to succeed it.

contrary to conspiracy theorists, who would do what ever will be needed to expose conspiracies and the truth.

More and more, it's becoming obvious for everybody here, that freemasons wants to take control of all conspiracy sites and ATS is without a dout already conquered.

will a freemason moderator see this post and use is privilages to hide it before to many will have time to read it or it would be to late to erase it because it would look to suspicious, so they will use different strategies...

to be continued...

Because we don't believe in censorship.

Freedom of speech is one of our basic beliefs.