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reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 10:06 AM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Shadow18433
i wounder who could be those 2 other imaginary friends of yours.

Please enlighten everyone as to who my alleged other screen names may be and we can have the moderators check my IP against those. Fairly straight forward.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 10:08 AM by Mintwithahole.

reply to post by bushidomason

There is no secret committee that talks to every lodge and "plans" events and dealings that each lodge doesn't know about. Quite absurd...

Well, first of all I didn't mention secrecy! All I wanted to know was just how much dialogue went on between the lodges and if the topic of how to react against those who insult or accuse the fraternity of crimes ever came up. What I really don't understand is why such a committee would be absurd? Surely it would come under "public relations?"

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 10:13 AM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Okay, the masons, if you are to be believed, don't have a inner sanctum or committee to answer those hard questions raised by non masons, but surely there has to be something which connects all the diferent lodges.

Each State has a Grand Lodge of elected officers who propose policy which is voted on by the members. There is nothing above this on a national level.

Also, Augustus, you said that nobody ever mentions a mason by name but instead refers to masonry as a whole but Shadow has now put that accusation to bed by claiming that you have another two identities here on ATS so you can decide which way the debate goes. To my knowledge that's not within the rules. . .

Being that my screen name and my real name are somewhat different and that the accusation he alleged was not libelous in nature I fail to see the correlary in regards the topic.

I'm interested to hear Shadows evidence...

Yeah, it should be rather entertaining.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 10:15 AM by Mintwithahole.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus

Even if it was proven that there where two or more "characters" here on ATS which were using the same computer to post from, would that be illegal and against ATS T&C? After all, some families can have three or more people all using the same computer! What if two of them decided to have an account here on ATS? How could you possibly stop that or make it illegal?

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 10:16 AM by AugustusMasonicus

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

Then I guess you just shot down Achilles arguement.

Either way I have no problem if anyone wants to check.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 04:20 PM by Shadow18433

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

Our Masonic Emperor really need to be treat, for a emotional achilles anxiety problem...

like you said Mintwithahole., Masons could tell that even if they have a different screename at a same IP it's not them and probably another member of their family using the same computer.

AugustusMasonicus and his imaginary Friends, could even use different
IP, one at home, one at the office, etc....

BUT hey... all the well known Freemasons at ATS should go and
take a picture of themself holding a sheet with ATS write on it, near
their faces and standing in front of all their personal city welcome signs.

AugustuseMasonicus
Masonic Light
RuneSpider
Rockpuck
Trinityman
network dude
Appak / patricia

JoshNorton
bushidomason
Mirthful Me
Saurus
driley
The Axeman
Skyfloating
senrak
KSigMason

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 05:19 PM by network dude

reply to post by Shadow18433

or not. Nobody needs to do anything. We all know how you have had several different screen names in the past and you would reply to your own lame posts and give yourself stars and thumbs up because nobody else liked you. Are you really Al Gore? that would explain alot. How do you feel about manbearpig, I mean global warming?

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 05:19 PM by KSigMason

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

At least in Idaho, the Lodge secretaries send out Lodge announcements and newsletters to every member and sister Lodges. The District Deputy Grand Masters also talk among the Districts. The Grand Secretary also sends out email newsletters. Masons also visit other Lodges and give out their news. Actually, conspiracy theorists are not much a issue to the Craft nor have they ever come up in my State's business meetings. We do have a PR committee, but it's more with the CHIP committee and when we do public events/charities.

reply to post by Shadow18433

I'll think about, but I have little time. Maybe I can get a picture in front of hte Boise Masonic Temple.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 06:05 PM by Mintwithahole.

reply to post by KSigMason

At least in Idaho, the Lodge secretaries send out Lodge announcements and newsletters to every member and sister Lodges.

Is the secretary an outsider employed by the lodge or are they like the secretary in a working mans club? I'm interested because if the secretary was an outsider then it would damage the claims of the conspiracy theorists because theres no way a society with secrets would dare allow someone not under oath or part of the fraternity to access potentially damaging information.
Of course, if the secretary is a mason then it could be that masons dare not employ anyone outside the brotherhood for fear of them hearing or seeing something damaging.
Also, would one of the masons kindly tell me what they would have to do to be thrown out of a lodge? And if you were thrown out, expelled so to speak, would you reveal the secrets no matter how ordinary and mundane you may feel they are?

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 06:35 PM by Fitzgibbon

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
reply to post by KSigMason

Is the secretary an outsider employed by the lodge or are they like the secretary in a working mans club?

The latter.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
I'm interested because if the secretary was an outsider then it would damage the claims of the conspiracy theorists because theres no way a society with secrets would dare allow someone not under oath or part of the fraternity to access potentially damaging information.

Which would make sense if there were actually some "potentially damaging information" (which there isn't [much to the chagrin of anti-Masons]).

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Of course, if the secretary is a mason then it could be that masons dare not employ anyone outside the brotherhood for fear of them hearing or seeing something damaging.

Which would make sense if there were actually "something damaging" to hear or see (which there isn't [much to the chagrin of anti-Masons]).

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Also, would one of the masons kindly tell me what they would have to do to be thrown out of a lodge?

Oh mundane things like non-payment of dues (although Lodges are usually quite forgiving in the amount of time that a brother might be allowed to be past due). Other more serious offences (such as anything that would get you locked up) would also likely lead to being turfed.

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
And if you were thrown out, expelled so to speak, would you reveal the secrets no matter how ordinary and mundane you may feel they are?

Me personally? No (although that hasn't prevented others from having spilled their guts for the last three centuries).

HTH
Fitz

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 06:39 PM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Mintwithahole.
Is the secretary an outsider employed by the lodge or are they like the secretary in a working mans club? I'm interested because if the secretary was an outsider then it would damage the claims of the conspiracy theorists because theres no way a society with secrets would dare allow someone not under oath or part of the fraternity to access potentially damaging information.

The Secretary is usually a Past Master who is typically retired and spends a good deal of time keeping up with the lodge's correspondence and related activities.

In my state, and being that we are listed as a not-for-profit group, the minutes of our meetings are public and available to all who want to peruse them. I believe they are archived at the local university's library.

[edit on 25-8-2009 by AugustusMasonicus]

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 06:45 PM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Shadow18433

AugustuseMasonicus
Masonic Light
RuneSpider
Rockpuck
Trinityman
network dude
Appak / patricia
JoshNorton
bushidomason
Mirthful Me
Saurus
driley
The Axeman
Skyfloating
senrak
KSigMason

Wow, I got named before Masonic Light, Rock and Axeman. I am soooo flattered, thank you Achilles, you really are my favorite Gentleman Conspiracy Theoriste.

You planning on telling everyone which of the ones you listed are my supposed other screen names?

[edit on 25-8-2009 by AugustusMasonicus]

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 06:52 PM by Rockpuck

reply to post by Shadow18433

I don't think Rubespider is actually a Freemason, I believe he just sympathizes with our constant verbal assaults.

Appak has sadly passed away this year.

I have never seen a "Patricia"

And if you are insinuating that all the others are the same person, or even, that some of them are --- they are not. We all have our own writing styles for one, and most of us partake in other forums on ATS.

You also failed to identify a few others I know of.

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus

I think you have gained popularity what with that exciting steamy rumor with you and a certain someone

Seriously, I was 4th, I am disappointed.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 06:59 PM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Rockpuck

I have never seen a "Patricia"

Patricia was Appak's daughter and used his account to thank everyone for posting and informing us of his eventual passing.

I think you have gained popularity what with that exciting steamy rumor with you and a certain someone

Jeez Louise, bet that certain someone is thrilled.

Seriously, I was 4th, I am disappointed.

Can you appeal this ranking to the (G)entlemen (C)onspiracy (T)heoriste (A)ssociation?

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 08:10 PM by Roufas

When will people learn?

It is a Secret Society for a reason. Whatever their reasons are , they will never ever disclose whatever it is they do , or follow , or if they have an agenda.

I have seen their people and I have seen how serious they get when the matter is at hand. They won´t say anything that they are not allowed to. Simple.

It would not be secret and everyone would be indirectly allowed in if they disclosed it , mmkay?

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 08:55 PM by bushidomason

The secretary of my lodge wears a kilt. and unfortunately he doesn't wear any underwear and even more unfortunately i am currently Senior Deacon in the lodge, which if anyone who knows the positions of the officers in lodge, if i turn my head to the left at the right exact time that our secretary is facing the right...the holy grails of sickening turbulence shall appear. He is a retired man who has lots of time to deal with the lodge business.

P.S. i cannot wait for December when we have our installation of officers and i can move to Junior Warden and be done with that atrocities.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 09:04 PM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by Shadow18433
So you and your 2 other imaginary friends... are only posting for derailing threads to hide the truth.

No need to reply, I found what you think on this site. On July 11th you posted that Runespider, Masonic Light and myself are all the same person. Remarkable.

The site is even funnier then your accusation. It seems to be a whinning blog for the former Above Top Secret poster FreightTomsen (EricDubay) who, since he was unable to maintain any self control here got himself banned.

If you head over to the DavidIcke-charge-to-post-forum you can read the same cryfest there as well. Seems like all our old buddies have congregated there including my personal favorite, Stompk. Everbody bemoans their fate here and others readily admit to having multiple accounts. Interesting.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 09:26 PM by bushidomason

reply to post by AugustusMasonicus

lol they really hate you on that david icke website. I lol'd so hard at some of the things people say at that website. the one guy"luciferhorus" is hilarious. I love how generalizes masonry into an evangelical anti-communist group.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 09:35 PM by AugustusMasonicus

Originally posted by bushidomason
lol they really hate you on that david icke website.

The irrationality of it all is not lost on me, although I do admit I found some of the comments to be funny.

reply posted on 25-8-2009 @ 10:03 PM by KSigMason

reply to post by Mintwithahole.

The Secretary is a Brother elected by the members of the Lodge. In my Lodge he is paid for his services (as he does a good portion of the paperwork).

The elected positions in my State are Worshipful Master, Senior and Junior Warden, Treasurer, and Secretary - have to be a Master Mason to be elected with certain requirements for Warden and Master. It's just like any other club that has a Executive board.

There are various offenses that are listed in the Constitution and By-Laws, plus giving away secrets is a big one. Conduct unbecoming can get you kicked out. We just kicked someone out for basically embezzlement of funds. I still wouldn't tell the secrets.