A Call to Republicans and Conservatives, page 1

More sarcasm from yet another Drama Queen. Thanks for contributing to the problem rather than helping.

Aw thanks.. I am sorry even my posting habits don't conform to your beliefs.

Yes, in our particular model of a Democratic Republic it is unfortunately a "Winner Take All" System. The Popular Vote is oftentimes a wasted Vote as a simple Majority claims the Electoral Vote. In this system a large majority of Votes may play no part in determining the outcome of an Election.

That has nothing to do with what I said. The electoral College has nothing to do with what I said.

When you further have a Supermajority in both the House and Senate, there is no way to block or filibuster a vote, and impossible to stop Constitutional Amendments on the Federal level (although in that later case they then have to be ratified by Supermajority in all 50 States).

There's no such thing as a "Super Majority" .. I believe you made that up. As far as blocking a filibuster that is, indeed, possible. However you assume all Democrats go with the party line, and that isn't the case. Even without the town hall protest, there were never enough Democrats in the Senate to support Obama's plan.

Also, to ratify an Amendment you need a 2/3rds vote in both houses. No one party has controlled 2/3rds of both houses. The other way would be 2/3rds of the States demanding a Constitutional Convention.

Read the Constitution. It's your friend.

In such a situation, a minority party, has no hope of accomplishing anything Partisan. At this point they can either just not show up to Congress ever and take a 2 year vacation at their constituents expense, or they can tow their Partisan line and be akin to a Lame Duck as the Supermajority of elected officials are less inclined to cooperate with them, or they can choose to overlook Partisan lines and work with the Supermajority.

Dumbest thing I ever read.

It does mean that you have no bargaining power though. Until you are dealt a better hand in the next election, you have to either fold or work with those around you. You can still provide input, but you can't stand your ground and remain entrenched. You have to work diplomatically, and give, bend and compromise.

lol.. well certainly the Dems have the upper hand on some minor political issues.. but not so much when it's a major issue. They still have to contend with the general populace and the opposition party members. And again, not all Dems and Reps vote on the party line. Dennis Kucinich for example often votes down Democratic bills, while Ron Paul is well known for voting down Republican bills. Many other such instances.. I believe the media is calling them "Blue Dog Democrats" .. who opposed the Health Bill.

I am looking for a modicum of decorum from the Minority.

When you make a thread with an asinine opening post don't be surprised when you don't get a lot of respect.

Attempting to sabotage and subvert isn't American. That is Terrorism.

LMFAO did you really just say that? I think that might land in my signature box..

Attempting to incite Armed Revolt, Civil War, and Dissent isn't American, it is Treason and punishable by death. Fortunately we don't have Thomas Jefferson in the Oval Office, otherwise those in the Minority doing this kind of thing would be shot on the White House lawn.

Thomas Jefferson wasn't known to authoritarian views like that.. and seeing as he not only helped formulate a treasonous plot, but also tell future generations to plan treasonous plots, I don't think he'd be much against our movements.

I think you're thinking of Andrew Jackson. You know your Presidents as well as the Constitution. Jackson had a knack for shooting people, killing people, and dreaming of hanging his Vice President.

I call for Revolution not because of the Current Government.. but because of the Government in general.. it is flawed at it's core, to the very political principles the country has adopted in the past 100 years.

AGAIN, for the third time in this Thread, no one is asking the Republicans and Conservatives to conform.

Right, right.. it was "unify" .. because we are currently acting like "terrorist" as you put it..

Disagreeing with specific Bills is fine and dandy. In a Democratic Republic no one can be happy all of the time. Matter of fact most won't be happy most of the time. The best you can ever shoot for is something that is mediocre and "Meh" most of the time, or something that will make some of the people happy some of the time. It's not the ideal political model, but it's what we have.

I'm tired of seeing you type out "Democratic Republic" .. if you want to get technical, we are a Representative Democracy. You say we can be against individual bills.. but when we vocalize against the bills we are being "subversive" and as you say, a terrorist.........

However in the meantime, you must respect the Office of the President, even if you don't respect the man sitting in it. I despised Bush, but I didn't try to overthrow him or start a Revolution because I couldn't stand the man.

Good for you, such a good little citizen you are. I however couldn't care less who's in office.. the actions in the past 2 years have been especially destructive.. the people of this country let the Government know overwhelmingly what we thought of the bailouts... the corrupt bastards did it anyways. IMO, that makes them guilty of Treason, and I will never support this Government so long as it remains in it's current form.

As an American it is my RIGHT to beleive such things.. Be damned if it upsets your unification or conformity or what ever the hell you want to call it.

Supporting the Constitution is good. You are supposed to do that. All of your fellow Americans are supposed to be doing that. That is fine and dandy too.

I do and will support the Constitution over the Government, the same Government that wipes their ass with that sacred document.