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Topic started on 17-8-2009 @ 09:56 PM by jmanshiphop
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Is Alex Jones a scaremonger?
www.examiner.com
 Many followers of Alex Jones and his web-site infowars.com are full of terrifying conspiracies of a new world order. Many critics of Alex
Jones claim that his conspiracies never come true and that there is not much research behind what he says.
William Cooper author of the book Behold a Pale Horse exposed Alex Jones as a scaremonger just before William Cooper was killed by authorities in
2001. William Cooper explained how on New Year’s Eve of 1999 Alex Jones’ radio show was full of lies, propaganda and scare tactics. Cooper
explained how Alex Jones discredited patriots with his acts (visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 09:56 PM by jmanshiphop
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Good article about Alex Jones possibly being an agent or an insider. Also looks at he possibility of him simply just being a victim of
misinformation. Either way has some good info on William Cooper as well. They are both controversial figures.
Jones does usually only focus on immigration, drugs and other topics that aren't that secret.
www.examiner.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 09:59 PM by Tentickles
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As much as I dislike Alex Jones he has a right to be whatever he wants to be.
Nancy Grace inspires more fear than Mr. Jones.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:09 PM by muzzleflash
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A scaremonger? I don't know.
For sure a ratings monger though hahah.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:11 PM by dgtempe
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 aint that the truth!  about Nancy.....
Anyway, i believe Jones and he can back anything he says, everything is verifiable, his guests, like Gerald Celente are extremely credible, among
other very credible guests.
He doesnt just give a discourse for 4 hours, he actually has well known people backing up what he says. by Gawwwd.
He's more credible than many other people i can think of.
Terrifying????? yes. BUT OTHER PEOPLE ALL SAY THE SAME THING. Futurists, Remote viewers, the I Ching,
They have different guests on Coast to Coast, all peddling doom, Web bots, etc...
For heavens sakes, what in the world do you all suppose those Fema camps and transportation and the millions of coffins are for???
We may find it REAL uncomfortable, i do, but i have a hunch i can trust him and he's telling what he KNOWS
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:13 PM by crw2006
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I enjoy the AJ show, does he fear monger a bit? Yes I think he does to get his message across. Do I think he exagerates sometimes? Yes, but I still
think his show is the best out there and a great alternative media source.
Wasnt Bill Cooper a bit of a paranoid nut case?
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:17 PM by NatureBoy
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this gets said an awful lot, there's a good thread on that here for example.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
I think he's a terrible scare monger and a totally amoral one at that, the more i listen to him the more i hear things he says just to beef up the
fear factor. I dunno but i think maybe he see's himself as some kind of reluctant leader of the revolution, if he can rouse people into action then
they'll carry him towards the crazy world he wants to live in, he'll be hero and everyone that called him crazy will eat humble pie (or swing more
likely, after a kangaroo court of course)
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:18 PM by AshleyD
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I have mixed feelings about Alex that mirror the sentiments of the article. Can't quite figure him out. You'd think if he was on the right path, the
government would have taken him out years ago in an 'accident.'
After Hal Turner was exposed as an informant, I suppose it's always possible. Or maybe they're just marginalizing his information by claiming he is
nothing more than a scaremonger. Sometimes they can silence critics through character assassination or making the public think the conspiracy
theorists aren't to be taken seriously.
Speculation aside, my opinion on Alex is that he most likely is a genuine conspiracy theorist but exaggerates for ratings just like they all do.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:42 PM by TheOneElectric
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Earthlasthoperevived did a 14 part series debunking Alex Jones.
some remnants of it can be found here: www.youtube.com...
Yes, Alex jones is part of the disinfo campaign. They open your eyes only to throw more dirt in them. See past the Alex Jones, Ron Paul's, and David
Ickes.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:46 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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I would argue he is more in the way of a "paranoia farmer" in that he feeds into people's paranoia and helps it to grow then cashes in on it.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:51 PM by open_eyeballs
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I would say scare monger is putting it nicely...
In my opinion he is two things.
First and foremost...He is out to make money. And therefore a scammer. (But I want to make the distinction...that not all whistleblowers who make
money are scammers)
Secondly and I suppose the only virtuous thing one can take from his overbearing ramblings, is he (at least he seems this way) believes the stuff he
tells people.
Does that mean people should listen to him??? Maybe with a grain of salt... the tiniest grain you can find...
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 10:59 PM by dgtempe
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Well then the radio waves are filled with scaremongerers, so is the Internet and ....
ATS.....
And going back to that age old problem, like who do we believe? MSM??
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 11:11 PM by TheAssociate
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Although I don't listen to Jones himself on the radio, I occasionally check out prisonplanet/infowars. 99% of the stuff there is just articles from
other sources with a conspiratorial spin. What he/they are doing is no different than what any other news outlet does, and I don't think the term
'scaremonger' is a very fair label. If you're going to call Jones and his cohorts that, you're going to have to call everyone in the media that
as well.
TA
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 11:17 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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Yes but it isn't a dualistic MSM or alternative problem. Just becuse you don't believe Alex Jones doesn't mean you MUST believe the crud from the
MSM.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 11:42 PM by dgtempe
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 11:52 PM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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No. I am saying the truth is harder to find than just subscribing to one "source" or genre (?) *meaning alternative or "MSM"*. Which
makes your last question rather unanswerable.
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reply posted on 17-8-2009 @ 11:57 PM by squidboy
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What's that old adage: Don't shoot the messenger.
How does he benefit from reporting on fearful situations/ events?
Is The reporting of bad news fear mongering? Better question. Is shouting scary to you?
Want to know what's scary? The book Eco Science.
Want to know what's even scarier then the book? The author's grip on health in America.
Want to know what's not scary? A chubby Texan screaming about it's content to let others know.
If you don't like the show, don't listen. Don't go around badgering the guy. Just turn it off... Jesus, why is this concept hard for people to
understand?
It's a freedom we all have, flip it off...
Oh and it's funny how people question is legitimacy. Granted he's not 100 percent correct all of the time, but he's more correct then our last two
Administrations have been. Crap I hear stuff from Jones, months before it's mentioned in the MSM. His guests are credible people. And the big
one.
I've watched all his movies, and listen to his show every day...
FOR FREE (how does Jones Benefit from this?)
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 12:00 AM by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 12:02 AM by Frankidealist35
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I like his show. What strikes me odd is why people characterize people who watch the Alex Jones show or listen to his show every day as his zombies
or mindless pawns which he can do with as he pleases. I object to that. I am not his mindless pawn. I like listening to his show and I have my own
opinions and I have my own way of seeing the world. Alex Jones has his own vision of the world. His analysis of news differs from mine. I don't
think he's a scare-mongerer. I don't think he scares us enough. I mean, society is pretty bad already right now. People have no clue how bad it
is, or, how to fix it. So, I say AJ doesn't really scare you enough really.
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reply posted on 18-8-2009 @ 12:41 AM by Sirius20
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I used to listen to his show every day from about January to May. If you want to hear fearmongering that is recent with him, go back and listen to
the show he did when the swine flu started hitting in April. He blew the entire situation out of proportion while having guests on from Mexico who
were saying it was worse than what the media was reporting on and were saying there were people dying all over the place. Instead of waiting a second
to confirm this story and see what was really going on, he ran with it and I can say it scared me because I was following the whole thing from about a
week beforehand. Then the next week he never even mentioned that he got any of that information wrong and said that he was right the whole time that
it was a false alarm. Now, he did say the week before that it seemed like it was all hype, but to push the fear even more so than the MSM was doing I
don't think was any better. I haven't listened to a full show since. I've tried on a couple occasions, but when he starts going off on his
idiotic rants it just turns me off anymore. Then seeing him have face painted like the joker and parading around like a moron really made me wonder
if he's trying to make the whole truth movement look like a joke. To people who say he's not in it for the money, how do you explain the joker
socialism t-shirt that I saw posted on his website literally like 2 days after that whole thing became popular or the fact that he just had a money
bomb not too long ago and was planning on having another one soon or just had it. Then the whole Bohemian Grove "infiltration" really makes me
question who's side he's really on. Sure, he gave his reason being that those people thought that he was one of the male prostitutes that they hire
for the people there, but I don't buy that for a second. Most of those people that are in that club would know who he is and what he looked like.
He never had to show ID to anybody and then said he was staying with the Hillbillies and that automatically removes any suspicion that the people
guarding the grove would have against him. I don't think they're that stupid to just accept that and not ask any more questions.
I will admit, I still read the articles on his website every day as well as the comments on his website, and if you read that, there is so much
hatred, racism, and paranoia on there that it gets kind of ridiculous. There's no room for any debate there. If you don't believe 100% of what he
says, you're automatically deemed a shill, troll, or disinfo agent.
What also puzzles me is if the NWO was really scared by what he was saying, they would have taken him out around the same time as Bill Cooper. Do you
notice that people like Bill Cooper, Rik Clay, Fritz Springmeier, and Phil Schneider were killed/jailed, but you have people like Alex Jones, David
Icke, Jordon Maxwell, and others going around free without anything happening to them? That really throws up red flags for me when it comes to these
people.
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