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Originally posted by walsbg22
There is no proof of this airplane. Since about 2003 we have heard this rumor and nothing new has came out. US has 2 fifth gen fighters, one in full production since 2005 and the other being tested. We have pics and vids of the American jets, nothing from Russia. And the plasma stealth rumor has no proof.
[edit on 17-8-2009 by walsbg22]
And by the way US spent $515 billion for defense and Russia spent $50 billion, that says something.
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Has it ever occurred to you that Russia parades half of its new military tech around and keeps the other half secret? They have black projects just like the US does, and some of the projects will probably never be seen by the world public.
Russia believes in developing an effective design and then only mass producing it when they actually need it. The US, with its only main industry being the military industry, mass produces weapons in some Cold War-style.
Look at every "invincible" American weapon and look at Russian weapons, they parallel quite nicely.
That says a lot about how the US wastes its money on obsolete technology,
Originally posted by phi1618
The USA imo overspends for defense.
The bottom line it seems is that a lot of nations have some pretty spiffy toys, and in the end the USA is going to be the one caught with it pants down if they ignore this.
Couldn't that make Russia highly susceptible to surprise attack by US? US will have almost as good weapons as Russia but have them already built. The US will overwhelm Russia while Russia just starts up the factories. Also, with anything, especially fifth gen fighters, without it working in the real world unforeseen problems will occur. It happened with the F-22 at first and will happen to Russia. But when Russia needs them they will need fixing but the US will have theirs working.
There is no F-22 or F-35 parallel we can see.
The flight performance of the Growler is similar to that of the F/A-18. This attribute enables the Growler to perform escort jamming as well as the traditional standoff jamming mission. Growlers will be able to accompany F/A-18s during all phases of an attack mission.
The Growler has more than 90% in common with the standard Super Hornet, sharing airframe, AESA radar and weapon systems such as the AN/AYK-22 Stores Management System. Most of the dedicated airborne electronic attack equipment is mounted in the space that used to house the internal 20 mm cannon and on the wingtips. Nine weapons stations remain free to provide for additional weapons or jamming pods. The added electronics include AN/ALQ-218 wideband receivers on the wingtips, and ALQ-99 high and low-band tactical jamming pods. The ALQ-218 combined with the ALQ-99 form a full spectrum electronic warfare suite that is able to provide detection and jamming against all known surface-to-air threats.
The EA-18G can be fitted with up to five ALQ-99 jamming pods and will typically add two AIM-120 self-defense missiles and two AGM-88 High Speed Anti-Radiation (HARM) missiles. The EA-18G will also use the INCANS Interference Cancellation system that will allow voice communication while jamming enemy communications, a capability not available on the EA-6B.
In addition to the radar warning and jamming equipment the Growler possesses a communications receiver and jamming system that will provide suppression and electronic attack against airborne communication threats.
Boeing is looking into other potential upgrades; the ALQ-99 radar jamming pod may be replaced in the future, and the company is looking into adding weapons and replacing the satellite communications receiver. The Growler is the initial platform for the Next Generation Jammer (NGJ) which uses Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) technology to focus jamming power exactly where needed. The NGJ will also be implemented on the F-35.
Now that cyber command has been approved and it’s grown increasingly clear that the US will deploy offensive capabilities, I thought it was time to revisit recent comments by Air Force Chief of Staff Gen. Norton Schwartz who said the US can kill advanced surface to air missiles without F-22s, F-35s or any other kinetic capability. In fact, Schwartz may have let some of the cat out of the bag when he told a Brookings Institution audience that the US possesses “the nascent capability” of taking down surface to air missile sites using offensive cyber methods.
Originally posted by mattifikation
The U.S. Air Force has stated that the F-22 and F-35 will be the last manned fighters they produce. The Reaper is just one example out of many UAVs in service now. A Pak-Fa would easily wipe the floor with one of these unmanned craft, and so far UAVs have only been designed to carry small payloads.
However, how would the Pak-Fa handle wave, after wave, after wave of unmanned, fearless, low-cost UAVs that probably cost less money than the missiles being used to shoot them down? How would anything deal with that?
I believe there's a thread here on ATS somewhere that talks about how the U.S. can essentially use cyber attacks to take out enemy radar. If this is true, then "who has the best fighter jet" and "who can detect what kinds of stealth" are archaic debates best left set aside. A fighter can't be superior to anything if it doesn't even know where to fly to. Stealth-detecting radar is meaningless if the enemy can cause it to break down at will.