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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 02:48 AM
NAVY Space Command Uncovered

Naval Space Command
A Pegasus Presentation

Opening Statement

Note: This will be a large post and will take me some time to transfer all the material and check links and errors so please hold off posting until I am done, thanks

Also for the squeamish I will add this Alert... most of the links that are not on my site are .MIL links, so don't say I didn't warn you

Many of you know that for years John and I have insisted on there being a secret astronaut program. We have taken the abuse all these years but today its time to present a case for this.

It is our contention that the US NAVY is in charge despite the existence of the USAF Space Command, just like in Star Trek it is the NAVY that commands the space fleet...

Gary McKinnon's claim to 'fame' is NOT that he found UFO's or UFO 'free energy' technology, his only claim is he saw a picture of one of those space fleet ships... and found a list of 'non terrestrial' officers... these were NOT ET, but billets in space by OUR armed forces...

So lets begin our journey... As this is a huge work in progress for me please forgive if I jump around a little at first trying to put this in order...

I will start with something that Weed Wacker sent me. Now Weed Wacker is a skeptic most times, and I hope I don't embarrass him (to much) with this. What he sent was a movie on Orbital Mechanics... a basic nice production for beginners. However what is important in this video is the few seconds of the opening credits... which was why he thought of me, with jaw dragging on the ground...

The Movie

Space Flight: Application of Orbital Mechanics
AVA18245VNB1 - 1994

In the opening credits we see that the Naval Space Command is listed ABOVE NASA. This video was brought to my attention by Weed Wacker, a member of ATS. Normally a stanch skeptic, he was linked this video to debunk a topic... but when he saw the opening credits and was shocked... so he sent it to me. It's these little tidbits that piece together a puzzle and let us see the whole picture. Although we have been saying for years that the US NAVY runs the real space program and NASA is just a pretty front for the public, until I saw this film neither I or my team have run across this emblem before (see below)

As to Gary McKinnon's Space Ship and Non Terrestrial Officers...

His biggest mistake was going in the back door... that really gets them pissed off and he is paying the price, but the NAVY is much more forthcoming with info than NASA is and if you ask them nicely, you would be surprised at what you get

So as to the Space Ship or Fleet...

Many have hinted at this over the years and the name "Solar Warden' will ring bells with many and cause others to groan... I don't believe that is the actual name of the project, but it makes the point that we are not the only ones on this trail...

Now bear in mind that as yet there is little hard proof... but over the years there has come to light things to back us up... you will have to follow the whole presentation to see all the pieces of the puzzle and tie them together. Information sometimes gives us clues from strange places... for example in a statement from Air Force Space Command we get this little hint...

In an Air Force Space Commands Press Release... After the point of contact... there is an interesting reference...


Missile warning and space operations were combined to form Air Force Space Command in 1982. During the Cold War, space operations focused on missile warning, and command and control for national leadership. In 1991, Operation Desert Storm provided emphasis for the command's new focus on support to the warfighter. ICBM forces were merged into AFSPC in 1993.

Point of contact

Air Force Space Command
Public Affairs Office
150 Vandenberg St., Suite 1105
Peterson AFB, CO 80914-4500

(719) xxx-xxxx or DSN 692-3731

In Popular Culture

In the popular TV series Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis, the Stargate Program is run by the Air Force Space Command. The AF Space Command Patch was worn on the uniform of personnel aboard the Prometheus, Earth's first operational deep space battle cruiser.

This flier has since been upgrade to a more recent one but the quote is still copied on Wikipedia

Air Force Space Command

As to the those Non-Terrestrial Officers

I subscribe to a hard copy magazine from Space Command...

High Frontier
The Journal for Space and Missile Professionals

In the Summer 2004 issue there is this notice...

Space Command
General Kevin P. Chilton
Commander, Air Force Space Command

"The establishment of Space Command is a crucial milestone in
the evolution of military space operations. Space is a place--like
land, sea, and air--a theater of operations. And it was just a matter
of time until space was treated as such."
~ General James V. Hartinger, 1 September 1982

Naval Space Command

Beginning in the mid-1980s, concurrent with the development of space operations and space engineering curricula at the Naval Postgraduate School, the Navy began “coding” officers as space subspecialists. As space subspecialty codes were then assigned to particular officers’ billets on numbered Fleet staffs and at commands ashore, the service began assigning Navy members with matching codes to those positions. More recently, the Navy has begun efforts to build a cadre of “space smart” officers, enlisted personnel and civilian employees.

The Naval Space Cadre is composed of active-duty and reserve Navy and Marine Corps officers and enlisted personnel, along with Navy civilian employees from a wide range of career fields who meet mandatory education, training and experience standards established for a particular certification level. The Navy Space Cadre is a distinct body of expertise horizontally and vertically integrated within Navy and Marine Corps active duty, reserves and civilian employee communities organized to
operationalize space

Initial identification of the cadre began in mid-2001 with the standup of the Naval Space Cadre Working Group and culminated in a naval message (NAVADMIN 201/03 DTG211435Z JUL 03) announcing the first 700 officer members of the cadre. These officers were identified by the subspecialty codes of 6206, Space Systems Operations, and 5500, Space Systems Engineering or by the additional qualification designator of VS1, VS2, VS3 or VS4. Identification of enlisted and civilian cadre members is more challenging, as these groups do not have specif?ic space identifiers like the officers do.

Approximately 265 billets are currently identified as space billets. These jobs are in Navy, joint and National Security Space organizations. Space cadre members are currently assigned throughout the National Security Space arena, including the National Reconnaissance Office, National Security Space Architect, National Security Space Integration, MILSATCOM Joint Program Office, as well as in all Navy organizations that deal with space.

High Frontier
The Journal for Space and Missile Professionals
Summer 2004

There is no online copy available but I will email a PDF to serious enquiries

So there we have it...

...first 700 officer members of the cadre, identified by the subspecialty codes of 6206, Space Systems Operations, and 5500, Space Systems Engineering... with 265 billets currently identified as space billets. These jobs are in Navy...

Okay back into History

If we wait long enough... eventually the truth comes out. Back when John was here we had a thread on secret shuttle missions.

I was about to make a thread on the first corps of secret Astronauts to prove a point, when PBS NOVA scooped us with Astrospies... I swear they snooped in my computer...

But heck, I don't mind because with their resources and their credibility, they could do the job better than I ever could have... and since that time no one hassles me about the existence of secret astronauts. Just imagine that if it took 50 years to tell us this, what do they still have to tell us

See PBS NOVA Astrospies...

Pegasus page on this is HERE

Secret Astronauts Credit: NASA
Meet eight astronauts from the Manned Orbiting Laboratory program.

Someone mailed me an autographed picture... not a letter, no return address... just the picture. It was similar to this one... a standard NASA signed press release photo...

Astronaut Richard Truly

Why is he significant? Well until I got the photo and looked him up (again), I had not really paid attention to him except that he was listed as one of the Secret Astronauts in the Astrospies section, and had put him 'on the shelf' so to speak for later follow up...

Sometimes I do get so buried with data I forget to dust off that shelf from time to time... so whoever sent me that picture... THANKS for the nudge

Here is what we had on the shelf...

Vice Adm. Richard H. Truly, United States Navy

"It's tough to describe how hard we all worked on MOL. But it was a huge part of our lives and, because of how hard we worked, we all learned a lot about ourselves and our abilities." - Vice Adm. Richard H. Truly


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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 02:55 AM
Astronaut Richard Truly


Richard Harrison Truly was born November 12, 1937, in Fayette, Mississippi. He attended the Georgia

Institute of Technology, where he received his bachelor of aeronautical engineering in 1959. In 1964, he attended what is now the Air Force Test Pilot School at Edwards Air Force Base in California, where he later became an instructor.

Career highlights

Following MOL, Richard Truly joined NASA and became a member of the astronaut support crew and capsule communicator (CAPCOM) for all three manned Skylab missions in 1973 as well as the 1975 Apollo-Soyuz mission. He piloted Columbia in 1981 and served as space shuttle commander during the third Challenger mission in 1983, after which he left NASA to become the first commander of the Naval Space Command. He returned to NASA one month after the tragic Challenger explosion that killed all seven crew in 1986.

Truly became head of the agency for three years starting in 1989. Already a retired vice admiral in the U.S. Navy, he has since held a number of distinguished academic, government, and professional positions.

His decorations include the Defense Distinguished Service Medal, Defense Superior Service Medal, two Legions of Merit, and the Distinguished Flying Cross, as well as a host of honors from NASA.

Source: PBS NOVA Astrospies

Also on Pegasus

Truly left NASA in 1983 to become the first commander of the Naval Space Command, Dahlgren, Virginia.

He served as NASA Administrator from 1989-1992

Source: NASA Biography

So from the first Secret Astronaut program, through Vice Admiral of the NAVY, through directorship of NASA, to the first Commander of the NAVY SPACE COMMAND I would say we have established the program is real...

Now in a recent thread here at ATS I presented some material that was interesting... I will NOT say which thread or what it was about. During the course of the thread I was contacted by several people and the dialog is still ongoing. During that email discourse one of the people I was introduced to was John L Philips. The reason I am being cryptic is because this door was opened for me and I have not yet had the chance to step in and see where it leads... so I have no intention of messing up a good thing...

However since the following document IS in public domain... I will toss it in here as an 'interesting coincidence' and follow up later when I can... (also there are watchers here
) I also make no claims as to his current status other than what is written in the following NASA biography... so don't be putting words in my mouth. I just don't believe in coincidences

John L. Phillips

John L. Phillips (Ph.D.)
NASA Astronaut


PERSONAL DATA: Born April 15, 1951 in Fort Belvoir, Virginia, but considers Scottsdale, Arizona to be his hometown. Married to the former Laura Jean Doell of Scotia, New York. They have two children. Enjoys skiing, swimming, kayaking, and hiking.

EDUCATION: Graduated from Scottsdale High School, Arizona, in 1966; received a B.S. degree in mathematics from the U.S. Naval Academy in 1972; an M.S. in aeronautical systems from the University of West Florida in 1974; and an M.S. and Ph.D. in geophysics and space physics from UCLA in 1984 and 1987, respectively.

SPECIAL HONORS: National Merit Scholar; graduated second of 906 at USNA; awarded the NASA Space Flight Medal, NASA Distinguished Service Medal, the Gagarin Medal, the Komarov Diploma, the Los Alamos National Laboratory Distinguished Performance Award, and various military awards.

So here we have a distinguished gentleman that is a NAVY/NASA astronaut, holds two of RUSSIA's highest space awards and has Los Alamos connections...

SPACE FLIGHT EXPERIENCE: STS-100 Endeavour (April 19 to May 1, 2001). During the 12-day, 187 orbit mission, the crew successfully delivered and installed the Canadarm-2 robotic arm. They also delivered experiments and supplies aboard the Multi-Purpose Logistics Module Raffaelloon its maiden flight. Phillips was the Ascent/Entry Flight engineer and was the intravehicular activity coordinator during two space walks.

ISS Expedition 11 (April 15 to October 10, 2005). Phillips launched from the Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan aboard Soyuz TMA-6, and served as NASA Science Officer and Flight Engineer aboard ISS. During their six-month stay aboard ISS the crew continued station maintenance, worked with scientific experiments, performed a spacewalk in Russian spacesuits from the Pirs Airlock, and hosted the “return to flight” visit of the Space Shuttle Discovery (STS-114). The ISS-11 crew landed in Kazakhstan on October 10, 2005. In completing his second mission Phillips logged 179 days and 23 minutes in space including an EVA totaling 4 hours and 58 minutes.

Read the rest here... its quite an awesome career...
John Phillips Bio

His current job description...

...a robotics specialist supporting operations on present and future missions.

I think I will nick name him "Scotty" even bears a little resemblance

Navy Programs

For the OP I will just list these programs with a brief referecnce and later I will expand on them.

There are a lot that tie into the NAVY Space Program and this will take a while to put together


We all know this one and it has been around since December, 1830

The United States Naval Observatory (USNO) is one of the oldest scientific agencies in the United States. Located in Northwest Washington, D.C., it is one of the few astronomical observatories located in an urban area; at the time of its construction, it was far from the light pollution generated by the (then-smaller) city center.

Established by order of Secretary of the Navy John Branch on 6 December, 1830 as the Depot of Charts and Instruments, the Observatory rose from humble beginnings. Placed under the command of Lieutenant Louis M. Goldsborough, with an annual budget of $330, its primary function was the restoration, repair, and rating of navigational instruments. It was made into a national observatory in 1842 via a federal law and a Congressional appropriation of $25,000. Lieutenant James Melville Gilliss was put in charge of the project, which was completed in 1844.

The observatory's primary mission was to care for the United States Navy's marine chronometers, charts, and other navigational equipment. It calibrated ships' chronometers by timing the transit of stars across the meridian. Initially located downtown in Foggy Bottom (near the Lincoln Memorial), the observatory was moved to its present location in 1893, atop Observatory Hill overlooking Massachusetts Avenue, amidst perfectly circular grounds.


Now the USNO has long been pointed to by conspiracy people as being in the thick of it

* John Lear with the Hansen/Simon Newcomb Lunar atmosphere deal
* Z Sitchin using R Harrington's work for Planet X
* Time manipulation involving the Philadelphia Project and currently issues involving shortening of time and the Schumann Resonance factor

Here are some links:

* United States Naval Observatory (USNO) - Main Official Site
* United States Naval Observatory (USNO) - Time Portal


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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 02:59 AM

Now this one everyone, at least on ATS, should know by now that Clementine was NOT a NASA program... yet all over the forum and on the internet I still see people say it was a NASA gig

Well it wasn't it was a Star Wars Military program...

The Naval Research Laboratory is not affiliated in any way with any organization selling lunar property or acreage on the moon. NRL has no involvement, either officially or unofficially, in providing "after-sales service" for the purchase of lunar property from the Lunar Embassy, its franchisees, or any similar organizations. Disputes arising from the purchase of lunar property from such organizations must be resolved with the seller directly.

NRL was responsible for the design, manufacture, integration, and mission execution of the Clementine spacecraft for the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization. During its two-month orbit of the Moon in 1994, Clementine captured 1.8 million images of the Moon's surface. The Laboratory provides the Clementine Lunar Image Browser as a courtesy to scientific researchers, as well as the general public, and you are welcome to browse the over 170,000 images that are available.

The Clementine Mission

Version 1.5 of the Navy Browser...
(the one everyone uses for anomaly hunting)
Notice the URL is NRL.NAVY.MIL No NASA

Version 2.0 of the Navy Browser...
Notice the URL is NRL.NAVY.MIL No NASA

In actual fact the Clementine data produced color images, covered here...

Revealed for the First Time Color Images of the Moon from Clementine Satellite

Clementine Documents

Moon Glow - PDF

The Clementine Satellite - PDF - Official LLNL report and statistics

U.S. Department of Defense
Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs)
News Transcript
Tuesday, December 3, 1996
Subject: Discovery of Ice on the Moon

On Star Wars...

Q: Can you update us on... The colonel mentioned that by the time he got to the office in 1989 it was pretty clear the U.S. wasn't going to deploy a space-based missile defense system. What's happened to the Star Wars program? How is your office changing? What are you using this technology for today?

A: Although many of the space platforms that were really envisioned as part of the Strategic Defense Initiative Organization program back in 1989 have not been supported and continued because of the change in emphasis, including the name of the organization to the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization, we're now primarily focused on theater missile defense and national missile defense -- defense of the U.S. continent and Alaska and Hawaii with a much reduced threat. And of course we have the demise of the Cold War to thank for that.

However, there is still a space-borne component to our theater and national missile defense architecture, and that is the space-based infrared satellite. That will allow us to do tracking, particularly in boost and in the mid-course phases of the trajectory of a ballistic missile. So all the technologies that were demonstrated on Clementine are technologies that we would hope would be either used or would be the grand-daddies of technologies that we would eventually use in our space surveillance platforms. So that part of the space architecture is still very much alive.

Q: But the role of the so-called Star Wars system now has shifted to more of a surveillance, as opposed to shooting something down...

A: No, it is still based on shooting down ballistic missiles by impact with interceptors. So this technology is important in order to track and pass the track files on to the interceptors in order to allow them to hit their targets. So it's very much a part of the architecture.

On Water Ice...

Q: That translates to what in volume?

A: We were very conservative in the press release, but if you take basically 100 square kilometers by roughly 50 feet, you get a volume of something like a quarter of a cubic mile, I think it's on that order. It's a considerable amount, but it's not a huge glacier or anything like that.

Q: Can you compare that with something you know?

A: It's a lake. A small lake.

On Wherefore Art Though Clementine...

The Clementine spacecraft has many mysteries surrounding it, but the name sake... where is Clementine? Lost and gone forever? Well not quite...

Here is our work on Clementine...

Wherefore Art Thou Clementine? - The Mystery of Clementine Explored

Q: Where is Clementine now?

A: The spacecraft, as you know, from the name Clementine, is only supposed to be here for a short period of time and be lost and gone forever, so it was intended for a very short period of time after this lunar mission, did a rendezvous with the earth, and shortly after that was shifted by the moon's
gravity and continued a flight which will bring it back near the earth about nine years from now. So it's an 11 year total flight around the sun. So basically it's moving like a little planet around the sun, and it will bring it back close to us in about nine years... It's two years since it left us so it will be another nine years before it's back. But it's not useful right now. The mission is finished.

Q: But unlike it's namesake, it's not lost and gone forever. It will be back?

A: It will be back, but it's not a useful spacecraft any more.

The above quotes are from the Pentagon Press Release issued in 1996 but not online till Oct 2006

DoD News Briefing
Presenter: Dr. Dwight Duston, Assistant Deputy for Technology, Ballistic Missile Defense Organization;


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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 03:08 AM

For some time in many threads, mostly those dealing with the infamous STS 75 Tether Incident and NASA's bungling loss of the satellite, I have dropped hints about the OTHER tether satellite flown by the NAVY only a month later. It was used for two years for laser experiments and as far as I know it is still being spotted by amateurs, at least it was a few years ago... It first flew in 1996 and I have an amateur video of it passing over in the summer of 2004 with an Astrovid StellaCam EX by apolloisgo (link later)

Now very few people even asked me about it and yet info on it was even available back then in public channels. Its one of my pet peeves, people saying they are searching for truth, but then even when you rub their noses into it, they still don't see it. I got the usual ribbing from certain skeptics, who didn't even bother to do a simple search...

Well this satellite was flown and they shot lasers at it from two locations on Earth...

One was the Advanced Electro Optical System (AEOS) Mount Haleakala, Maui, Hawaii run by the Air Force and this was the location they took photos of the satellite in orbit...

The other location was the Starfire Optical Range in Kirtland AFB in New Mexico

There is a similar facility in Russia that I knew about and managed to find on Google Earth It is called OKNO ELINT and on that project the Russian's said we had THREE... well I found Starfire and AEOS no problem, but the third eluded me though it was already on my list...
HELSTAF High Energy Laser Systems Test Facility - White Sands, New Mexico

The Russian site OKNO ELINT is here

This was the Russian Article I used to track it down on GE

OKNO ELINT Photo Gallery - Pegasus

OKNO Sourcebook - 242 page PDF report

So back to the tether... the purpose of firing the lasers at it was to test the concept of transmitting power to satellites in space via high powered lasers. The new optical systems compensate for atmospheric dispersal. My next thread will deal with that topic in detail... and a little later I will show you one more awesome NAVY project...

The NAVY Tether is called TiPS Tether Physics and Survivability experiment.

Some public links..

* Wikipedia Tether Satellites -
* NRO - Tether Physics and Survivability (TiPS) Fact Sheet -
* NASA - TiPS Satellite -
* NRL - NAVY -

Now those sites will give you basic details...

Graphic of the US Naval Research Laboratory's TiPS tether satellite.
Note that only a small part of the 4 km tether is shown deployed.

This is the actual size of tether cable

But when I first found this a few years a go the info was on this URL (which now gives you a redirect)

Catchy URL to be sure, eh?

I contacted the NAVY webmaster for permission to reprint the data as it was now declassified and received that permission

Here are the links to the data and photos

* Tether Physics and Survivability Experiment (TiPS) - Naval Research Laboratory

* Processed TiPS Images From MSSS/AMOS - Naval Research Laboratory

* Tether Physics and Survivability Experiment (TiPS) - Naval Research Laboratory
* - (the link is still on this page - I didn't make it up )

* Video of lasing the Satellite Download TiPS MPEG Video (382 kb)

* Youtube Capture by an amateur in 2004 but just posted to youtube in 2007


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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 03:11 AM

Did you know HAARP was a NAVY NRL Program?

You do now

NRL - The High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program

Navys Record-Breaking Railgun Shot

Screen capture from the Video... notice the logo on the target shows the rail gun in space.
Can someone translate that Latin?

Navy's Record-Breaking Railgun Shot

Navy's Record-Breaking Railgun Shot Video

Naval Surface Warfare Center, Dahlgren, Virginia

Topic b. Development of new technologies that would allow commercial space-based or conventional aircraft sensors to detect man-made structures hidden beneath heavy (triple canopy) jungle foliage. Consideration will be given to low cost, low footprint concepts that can be prototyped in less than 6 months.

Space to NAVELEX Exploration Helps Drive Navy Reorganization

Efforts to conquer space began in earnest in the early 1960s when the first U.S. manned spacecraft Freedom 7 was successfully launched and recovered May 5, 1961. Both Astronaut Alan Shepard and the Freedom 7 were flown safely by helicopter to the deck of the USS Lake Champlain within 11 minutes of landing. With that successful recovery, President John F. Kennedy challenged the nation to land men on the moon and return them safely to earth before 1970.

Space Program drives Navy to reorganization. In answer to the challenge, NASA launched the Apollo Space Program. It soon became apparent that supporting the space program would be a significant priority for the Navy. Indeed, support of the space program and the launching of its own satellite navigation systems drove a number of organizational changes within the Navy. Along with some existing challenges the Navy had been battling for some time.

PDF Paper

Naval Space Command

Description (U):

(U) Headquartered at Dahlgren, Virginia, NAVSPACECOM began operations October 1, 1983. NAVSPACECOM uses the medium of space and its potential to provide essential information and capabilities to ashore and afloat naval forces by:

-Operating assigned systems;
-Executing missions assigned by USCINCSPACE;
-Advocating naval warfighting requirements in the joint arena; and
-Advising, supporting, and assisting naval services through training and by developing space plans, programs, budgets, policies, concepts, and doctrine.

(U) NAVSPACECOM also serves as the naval service component of the United States Space Command (USSPACECOM), established in 1985. Component responsibilities include operating assigned space systems to provide surveillance and warning, as well as providing spacecraft telemetry and on-orbit engineering support. In addition, NAVSPACECOM provides facilities and staffs a command center 24 hours a day to serve as the Alternate Space Control Center (ASCC) for USSPACECOM's primary center located at Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Base, Colo. ASCC missions include operational direction of the entire global Space Surveillance Network for CINCSPACE. The ASCC also detects, tracks, identifies, and catalogs all man-made objects in space and provides ephemeris on these objects to approximately1,000 customers. It also monitors the space environment and informs owners and operators of U.S. and allied space systems of potential threat to their assets by continuous liaison with the systems' operations centers. Finally, NAVSPACECOM provides administrative oversight for two Echelon 3 operational Navy activities: the Naval Satellite Operations Center (NAVSOC) and the Fleet Surveillance Support Command (FLTSURVSUPPCOM).

US Naval Space Command Space Surveillance System

One of the lesser-known assets of the US Space Command's world-wide space surveillance system is the 217 MHz NAVSPASUR "fence" across the southern US. The following items from various sources (indicated in italics) give some basic information about the system, its history and use.

US Naval Space Command Space Surveillance System

US NAVY Program Executive Office Space Systems

Credit: US NAVY

PEO Space Systems Organization Info

Mission Statement

The PEO Space Systems mission is to develop, acquire, integrate, produce, launch, test and provide operational support to reliable, affordable, flexible, effective and seamless space systems that support DOD and U.S. agencies to enable joint, coalition, combined and naval operations. PEO Space Systems coordinates all Department of the Navy space research, development and acquisition activities.

US NAVY Program Executice Office Space Systems

Naval Space Command

The naval services' growing dependence on space prompted the Secretary of the Navy to establish a new command that would consolidate space activities and organizations that operate and maintain naval space systems. This new organization - the Naval Space Command - was commissioned on October 1, 1983. It was a decisive move to bring together several activities under a single command to strengthen operational control, provide a central focal point for naval space matters, and more effectively guide future operational uses of space.


posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 03:13 AM
Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR)

Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR)


History of the Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR) from 1942, showing vintage pictures, robotics, dolphin and seal cams, to satellites and Titan rocket launches

National Defense Industrial Association

Is this the Military Industrial Complex Eisenhower told us to beware of?

Credit: National Defense Industrial Association

Space Based Laser (SBL)

SBL Space Based Laser

TRW Directed Energy Weapon

SBL Deployment Schedule 2004 DEW Symposium
Captured on spy cam at the symposium


Sea Launch is a private joint venture between Boeing (American) and Energia (Russian) that launches rockets from a mobile ocean going platform.

Sea Launch home page

Pegasus page

I include this here because we have rumors that the NAVY also has a secret platform like this... but to date we have not found it... yet But perhaps it will show up soon...

HOWEVER, that being said we have some other items along this line...

USS Midway... the FIRST Sea Launch. German V2 rockets launched from the deck of the USS Midway

Operation Sandy USS Midway 1947

Sealar - Sea Launch and Recovery

The Naval Research Laboratory's concept exploration program to demonstrate sea launch and recovery of a rocket.

Praxis provided program planning and control, graphics and presentation support, hardware and software technical documentation development, networks scheduling, and launch site support. Praxis was responsible for a number of high level briefings to U.S. Navy and Congressional staff to support the development of the Cooperative Research and Development Agreement signed between the Naval Research Laboratory and the SEALAR corporation.

Note: Praxis is the company that made the Clementine Satellite for the DoD/Navy Mission

Sea-launched orbital launch vehicle.
Year: 2006. Country: USA. Status: Study 1998-2006.
Astronautix -

SEALAR (Sea Launched Rocket)
Global Security -
Pegasus -

And we did find ONE mobile ocean going platform similar to Sea Launch... but this is the Radar Unit. So I am pretty confident I will eventually find that other launch platform

Sea-based X-Band Radar

Boeing Sea-Based X-Band Radar Completes Transport through the Straits of Magellan and Arrives in Pearl Harbor

Sea-Based X-band (SBX) Radar - Global Security

Sea-Based X-Band Radar Arrives in Pearl Harbor


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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 03:20 AM

No I am not suggesting the Japanese Lunar Orbiter is connected to the NAVY. In the spacecraft "Kaguya SELENE" stands for "SELenological and ENgineering Explorer"

JAXA | SELenological and ENgineering Explorer "KAGUYA" (SELENE)

The NAVY SELENE stands for "SpacE Laser ENergy"

Why this odd acronym? Good question... maybe it does have something to do with the Japanese Moon Ship after all

Information is difficult to find but we have some things to go on... Exuberant1 has been working to track this one down, as well as other info on lasers to transfer power from Earth to satellite, from satellite to ground, and from satellite to satellite...

SELENE has the ability to send POWER TO THE MOON... think about the implications of THAT.

NAOMI/SELENE site design

Hislop, Arthur Q.; Malik, John L.; Richter, David J.; Bennett, Harold E.
Proc. SPIE Vol. 2376, p. 297-314, Laser Power Beaming II, Harold E. Bennett; Richard D. Doolittle; Eds.


The Birchum Mesa SELENE (Space Laser Energy) facility will be dual use facility as it provides for progressive development of high power Free Electron Lasers (FEL) and commercial laser beam power transfer to space-borne vehicles. The facility will be comprised of SELENE mainsite containing two laser system bays and supporting facilities with transport tunnels coupling to the Beam Transfer Optical System (BTOS) which is the active optical array space beam director with its supporting facility. The first generation commercial grade laser will operate at 100 kW of quasi-CW laser power with a planned growth to 10 MW of output power. The BTOS beam director will direct a focus compensated laser power beam to provide power service to space vehicles within a +/- 50 degree (half angle from zenith) tracking cone service field. An underground hardened site is proposed for this facility to mitigate any potentially hazardous effects from operation of a very high energy CW electron beam laser, to protect the facility from inadvertent weapons splashdown during range Test and Evaluation operations, and to create minimum environmental impact upon historical and ecological elements of the range.

Advantages of China Lake for laser power beaming
Bennett, Harold E.
Proc. SPIE Vol. 2376, p. 280-296
Laser Power Beaming II, Harold E. Bennett; Richard D. Doolittle; Eds.


The site for the proposed National Advanced Optic Mission Initiative (NAOMI) facility will be in the mountains near China Lake, California. This location has 260 clear days per year (more than any other feasible site in the U.S.). In 1993 there were 5 completely overcast days all year. The area near the proposed site is unpopulated. The solar insolation in this general area is the greatest of any area in the United States.

The NAOMI system will be installed at an altitude of 5600 feet. Astronomical seeing there is excellent. Even at a less favored site than that planned for NAOMI the average Fried seeing coefficient ro is 12 cm in the visible region and 20 cm values of ro (comparable to the best observatories) are commonly observed. The area is centrally located in and entirely surrounded by one of the largest restricted airspace/military operating airspace complexes in the United States, 12% of the entire airspace in California. Electrical power is available from either the nearly Coso Geothermal plant, second largest in the United States, or from the even closer cogeneration plant at Trona, California.

Cooling water can be obtained from the nearby area or from the lake itself. Although a dry playa, the lake has a high brackish groundwater level. Most of the commercial satellites over the U.S. could be reached by a laser/telescope system located on government land at the Naval Air Weapons Station (NAWS) military reservation at China Lake. This telescope/laser system will be a prototype for five other systems planned for around the world. The complex will provide laser power beaming to all satellites and put the United States into the position of world leader in satellite technology and power beaming to space.

Now the part about beaming power via laser to the Moon

Beam Transmission Optical System (BTOS)


The development of the Beam Transmission Optical System (BTOS) is a portion of a larger project entitled SpacE Laser Electric ENErgy (SELENE). The SELENE project utilizes a high energy, free electron laser to transfer energy from the ground to orbiting spacecraft or other space targets such as a lunar base [1] BTOS is the systcm that delivers the beam energy from the laser to the target.

The primary mission objective of SELENE is to provide energy for operation of geosynchronous satellites including steady-state power for operations, periodic low power for station keeping, periodic high power during eclipses, and high power for transfer orbit apogee burn. [2] SELENE will also provide energy for operation at middle and high earth orbits (MEO) of 3000+ kilometers. Another possible usage for SELENE will be to provide energy to a laser-augmented solar-electric orbit transfer vehicle wherein a low earth orbit (LEO) vehicle transfers to geosynchronous orbit (GEO) through a spiral trajectory path. Finally, SELENE will provide continuous steady-state energy for operation of a lunar base.[3]

Structural Design Considerations for the Beam Transmission Optical System
Paul D. MacNeal and Michael C. Lou, Jet Propulsion Laboratory, California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, California

As I said I will create a new thread on the LASER POWER Transmission as there is a lot to cover... I just wanted to show the tie in with the NAVY SPACE PROGRAM and the BEAMING OF POWER VIA SUPER LASERS TO SPACE

Naval Air Warfare Center Weapons Division (NAWCWD)

Weapons Division PAO: About China Lake - Ridgecrest

That's all for now... I have lots more to add but I needed to get the thread started.

All this data and more is collected on my site. There are many links to sites and papers and it is an on going project, especially as more data is released from the NAVY



This just to add because its done... and is NAVY

Nothing to do with space
And just because its a 'secret'


Navy Submarine Base Under the Nevada Desert?

NUWC Naval Underwater Warfare Center - Hawthorne Nevada Division
Photo Tour at Gate

The end... for now

[edit on 15-8-2009 by zorgon]

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posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 03:54 AM

A practical demonstration of a Laser BTOS system being used to supply power to a sub-orbital craft (a remote-controlled plane):

Flights of the lightweight, radio-controlled model airplane inside a large building at NASA Marshall are believed to be the first time that a plane has been powered only by laser energy. The demonstration was a key step toward the capability to beam power to an aircraft, allowing it to stay in flight indefinitely -- a concept with potential for the scientific community as well as the remote sensing and telecommunications industries.

As Zorgon pointed out, not all lasers systems need be Earth-based - In some cases (such as moon missions), it would be far more practical to have solar-pumped laser in orbit. It appears that Langley and NASA have taken an interest in the matter:


-solar-pumped lasers in lunar orbit would beam power to the lunar surface for conversion into either electricity or propulsion needs. For example, lunar rovers could be much more flexible and lighter than rovers using other primary power sources

-Also, laser power could be absorbed by lunar soil to create a hard glassy surface for dust-free roadways and launch pads

-Laser power transmission is shown to be a highly flexible, enabling primary power source for lunar missions.

*Using lasers to make roads and launchpads... think about that.

Along with power transfer and generation, such lasers could be also used in mineral and water extraction (ie. water from the "small lake").
There are many advantages in using such a flexible power-transfer system.

What might these lunar orbiting solar-pumped lasers look like?

But what about power transmission from the Earth to orbiting satellites and the moon, surely that would be noticed. Here is what you would see if you lacked the proper equipment, and you looked into the sky towards and active BTOS system:

Unaided, you would see Nothing:

But if you were properly equipped, you would see beams rising up to meet with various satellites, some going to the moon, some even further - the beams which meet satellites are probably not from an observatory.

Properly aided, your eyes would see something like this:

(Jose Escamilla believes that these these may be Space Elevators. This and other such images can be seen in his new Movie Moon Rising)

*More information regarding Laser Power Beaming can be found here:

Click for for a Selection of Papers Regarding Laser power transfer systems (don't worry, it's .gov not .mil)

[edit on 15-8-2009 by Exuberant1]

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 06:05 AM

The Japanese are currently working on a Space Based Power System which converts solar energy into microwave and laser pulses. Let us hope the beams don't stray off-target:

Japan Shooting For Space-Based Solar Power

TOKYO (Nikkei)--The government will by the end of this year start developing technologies designed to eventually beam electricity from solar panels in space down to the earth.

An artist's image of a compact satellite for use in an experiment to transmit power down to the earth. (Courtesy of JAXA) A public solicitation for firms to participate in the endeavor will soon be made; the companies may be selected as early as next month.

The government expects players in the electronics and heavy electric machinery industries to participate. The hope is to commercialize orbital solar power by 2030. Such a system would have such advantages as generating electricity regardless of the weather on the ground.

The project will develop technologies to transmit power down to the earth. The idea is to convert solar electricity into microwaves, which would then be converted back into electricity at the surface.

*Coincidentally, it is starting to look as if the Japaneses Kaguya/Selene mission was actually a part of the larger BTOS SELENE program. If this is the case, then the name selection of the probe-set was probably not by chance. More to come.

The Europeans are getting in on the action, and will be testing their own Space Based Power system and will "assess a laser-based SBPS concept for Earth and for the lunar surface. Small scale science missions' laser power transmissions will also be considered."

ESA funds technology for Earth and Moon base SBSP

The European Space Agency's general studies programme is to assess a laser-based SBPS concept for Earth and for the lunar surface. Small scale science missions' laser power transmissions will also be considered.

The ESA work will include an assessment of the integration of space-based solar power plants into terrestrial ones, "including innovative approaches to orbit selection [and] methods for the adaptation of terrestrial solar power plants to serve in addition as receiving stations for space solar power plants".

According to the European agency direct solar pumped laser technologies offer the option of increasing total laser conversion efficiencies "by an order of magnitude" and innovative beam control and steering technologies, laser to electricity conversion systems and a combination of parallel data, power transmission techniques are of interest.

[edit on 15-8-2009 by Exuberant1]

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:15 AM
reply to post by zorgon

Air Force Space Command...

Naval Space Command...

Army Space Command?

Marine Space Command?

Coast Guard Space Command?...

Thanks for all the information you've put together here Zorgon, off to check it out.

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:23 AM
woaw, nice work you made, lots of research!

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:30 AM
While I still highly doubt the regular, systematic operation of any secret astronaut or manned space program in the scope that you have claimed it has been used before....I do know first and second hand about the weaponization of space. My father worked on Star Wars in the 80's and several other space weapon platforms. I do recall some being for the Navy too.

I also know that the space shuttle is yesterday's technology, and if they wanted to start producing a new ground to (low) orbit ship in a single stage they could easily just copy any of the several working prototypes they have now.

So yeah, there is a lot of cool stuff hardware wise on the horizon, but I have yet to see anything convincing that leads me to believe most of this stuff is in current programs.

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:38 AM
Great work Ron, no stone unturned gives us info like this. Stared and flagged by me and you are always on the leading edge of discovery and by the way say hi to John. ^Y^

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 09:42 AM
reply to post by zorgon

Very nicely done Z!

This is one for the archives for sure!


posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:10 AM
Nice job zorgon. Maybe some of those triangles people
see in the sky are part of the navy space command.

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:11 AM
I had no clue and just a passing interest in some of this stuff. You have enlightened me to some things I would never have guessed we were capable of doing.

Thank you for presenting your research here.

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:22 AM

Great research and presentation!

Whilst I was reading the all this here (no time for links yet) apart from trying to hold my jaw off the ground! I couldn't help but think about how Sailors have been using the stars for navigation for years...

The first generation commercial grade laser will operate at 100 kW of quasi-CW laser power with a planned growth to 10 MW of output power.


That's mind blowing and its only first gen

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:23 AM
Another awesome post Zorgon! I appreciate all the hard work you and others have done to bring this thread to us. S&F

So much info!

Probably not related but....I used to wonder why on some shuttle missions there have been former Navy Seals members..... odd to me because I assumed that it was either Air Force pilots, teachers or Dr.'s of some kind but now I'm thinking these guys were part of the Navy Space Command maybe?

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:26 AM
Well done zorgon. One of the most thorough posts it's been my pleasure to have read, although I'm still only half way through all the information you've bombarded me with.

Just one question (forgive me if you've mentioned this and I haven't yet read it) but where do you think these space craft launch from? Even if they launched from one of the sea based sites surely someone would see it? Maybe they have and the launches have been recorded as UFO sightings?
Once again, well done.

posted on Aug, 15 2009 @ 10:42 AM
Quite the information overload Zorgon, thanks for that

I like the concept of the sea launch platform. I notice the radar platform you mentioned is an (old?) oil platform, that may be a good way to find a similar launch platform by finding out what happens to oil platforms when they're no longer needed.

Another question and I think you've touched on this before is the old runways and military bases on small islands in the middle of the pacific. Do you believe there's anything going on with these facilities still?

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