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Originally posted by nunya13
I'm don't give a hoot about the whole "birth gate" thing. But only because if he's not American born, there's plenty of people who know this and will make sure nothing comes of it. They will have something to hold over his head if he doesn't do what they want. But that's only IF he's not American born. He very well could be.
But what I find funny about the supposed Kenyan certificate is the "birthers" jumped all over it as proof, but when Obama showed his supposed real birth certificate, it was so obviously a fake according to them.
Both were provided online. Both had a seal. Neither had a signature (am I wrong about that?). Neither were "long form". So how can people tell the difference?
Originally posted by epete22
So let me get something straight here. You people are glad its a fake because it seemed ludicrous?
Let me ask you something, are the people that support Obama a marxist? Do you consider yourself a marxist?
If not please review to the other thread.
If that is really your ideological value that you're a marxist then ok. I guess thats your right to support the complete take over of our nation but as the agent said I guess you will believe it when the boot kicks in your door.
PS. Liberals, don't think you're going to be free from what the hell the government is about to unleash. You will be in the healthcare line with the rest of us while the government drains your bank account or 'puts you down' for being unworthy for society.
The registrar cannot do so after 6 months of the birth. This individual who declared it was an registrar himself as shown on the fake document. Some birthers (before it was found a fake) claimed it was following a divorce settlement, problem is, there was no evidence provided that it was the result of a divorce. So basically what you had was an unauthenticated fake document that had the signiture of a registrar over two years following Obamas birth, but no solid evidence of it being connected to any divorce or other matter at hand. What you have left then is just a confirmation of Obamas birth, which should not have been more than 6 months following the actual date of his birth.
Originally posted by sonork
I don’t know if this is true but supposedly Obama has spent near 1 million dollars in legal fees keeping his Hawaii Birth Certificate from being shown.
What is he hiding?
I wouldn’t spend 1 dollar of my money. I’m proud that I was born in the USA.
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
reply to post by Southern Guardian
Well there ya have it y'all...
Even the WND calls fake!
It would have to be though, because there is no logical reason why Obamas father or mother would have ever been giving birth in Mombasa Zanzibar
I mean really, look how far Obama Sr's hometown, where he was born, raised, and schooled until he left for Hawaii is from where Mombasa is...
Over 400 miles away...
Originally posted by micpsi
WND calling it fake does not make it so.
Of course, you never considered the possibility that Stanley Ann Dunham and Obama Sr might have been visiting his relatives or friends in Mombasa when she gave birth?
Yes I know it says republic in the Kenyan constitution of 63', thats only because it was an ammendment added to it following December of 64'.
The original Kenyan constitution of 63'. It says nothing of the republic yet, even though it was under discussion:
THE CONSTITUTION OF THE REPUBLIC OF KENYA, 1963
(as Amended to 2008)
The Republic of Kenya
1. Declaration of Republic.
Kenya is a sovereign Republic.
Originally posted by oneclickaway
Showing a front cover of a 'constitution' booklet dated 10th December 1963 is meaningless. Independence was granted on the 12th.
HC Deb 14 December 1964 vol 704 c36 36
§ Mr. Speaker Bill to make provision as to the operation of the law in relation to Kenya as a Republic within the Commonwealth, presented by Mr. Bottomley; supported by the Attorney-General and Mr. Cledwyn Hughes; read the First time; to be read a Second time Tomorrow and to be printed. [Bill 49.]
If you think that wording was only added in 1964 then prove it.
forming a provisional government, and Kenya celebrated its independence on December 12, 1963, with Kenyatta as prime minister. A year later Kenya became a one-party republic when the main opposition party went into voluntary liquidation. At the same time, Kenyatta became the first president of Kenya under a new constitutional amendment. In this office he headed a strong central government, and successive constitutional amendments increased his authority, giving him, for instance, the power to arrest political opponents and detain them without trial if he considered them dangerous to public order
Your still sitting here making excuses for what is obviously a forged document. You got yourself fooled, your not helping yourself any further by extending the excuses.
Originally posted by oneclickaway
You make statements that you fail to back up with any evidence.
The truth has been set free and it is only a matter of time until he is removed from office and charged with treason, that is if any of this makes it to court before someone in support of Obama buys off who ever to make this hard core evidence go away.
Originally posted by malcr
The seal and signature are on the back of the real birth certificate. According to the folks in Hawaii that's perfectly normal.