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Originally posted by kinda kurious
A poster named GLDNGUN may be on to something.
He posted THIS as the potential template used. Although it is from Australia, there are MANY similarities. ( names, numbers, dates.) It is from a family ancestry site.
Kudos to GLDNGUN if this cracks the case.
(This was on the other 'Birther' thread.) www.abovetopsecret.com...
Thanks Southern Guardian for a GREAT thread and your infinite insight. I am a huge fan.
[edit on 3-8-2009 by kinda kurious]
Originally posted by Evisscerator
Originally posted by EYEOFEAGLE
reply to post by Southern Guardian
THIS IS A BOLD FACE LIE, LIE, LIE!!!!!!
Prove that it is a fake!!!!!!!!!!! And prove that it is a LIE!
THIS IS CLASSIC ACORN TACTICS THAT YOU ARE TRYING HERE, IT IS NOT GOING TO WORK!!!!
The truth has been set free and it is only a matter of time until he is removed from office and charged with treason, that is if any of this makes it to court before someone in support of Obama buys off who ever to make this hard core evidence go away.
Eye of Eagle
I'm with ya on this one. The OP of this thread is a disinformation specialist. Yes, he gets his point across by using counter points to the other thread on the matter, however, he has no credibility with "his OPINION". He needs to remember that Opinions are like iceholes, everyone has one. His i no more or less important than anyone elses. And just because he thinks HE is right does not make it so.
Let the Powers that Be make the ultimate decision on this if they have the balls to do so. Otherwise, all the complaining about Obama's birth certificate won't resolve any issue on the matter. If WND has the balls to prove it, then we have something to hang Obama out to dry with if it gets into the mainstream press.
Originally posted by Dbriefed
It would be hard to prove a document is real or forgery even if all the information is correct. If the discrepancies you point out are correct, then someone created a fake document. It's to be expected, on one hand Obama spent $960,000 to prevent releasing his real birth certificate, and on the other hand I would expect the same amount of effort in the other direction.
Originally posted by XyZeR
Haha these birthers are even more thick then i could imagine...
First, the hospital is Coast Provincial General Hospital (sometimes said to be Coast Province General Hospital), not Coast General Hospital.
Second, Kenya was a Dominion the date this certificate was allegedly issued and would not become a republic for 8 months.
Third, Mombasa belonged to Zanzibar when Obama was born, not Kenya.
Fourth, Obama's father's village would be nearer to Nairobi, not Mombasa.
Fifth, the number 47O44-- 47 is Obama's age when he became president, followed by the letter O (not a zero) followed by 44--he is the 44th president.
Sixth, EF Lavender is a laundry detergent.
Seventh, would a nation with a large number of Muslims actually say "Christian name" (as opposed to name) on the birth certificate?
Eigth, his father (born in 1961) would have been 24 or 25 when he was born and not 26.
Ninth, it was called the "Central Nyanza District," not Nyanza Province. The regions were changed to provinces in 1970.
Originally posted by DraconianKing
I feel like every time I come on to ATS I lose even more faith in humanity. The amount of ignorance, lies and stupidity is depressing. I just wish these birthers and neo-cons would start their own website so we can have the good old ATS back. If this movement keeps up ATS might as well change their name to BelowAverageIntelligence.com, it's getting ridiculous. You guys are being played like a flute and aren't smart enough to realize it.
Originally posted by HunkaHunka
Originally posted by jd140
reply to post by HunkaHunka
Fox does have a point. As a matter of fact many on ATS including myself have said the same thing.
Hold a news conferance, take the original BC with him and present it to the public and this will all go away, except of course for a very small radical few who need their conspiracies.
I wouldn't necessarly say its like blaming a woman for being raped. It's more like a woman saying she was raped and refusing to show any evidence except for a picture of a man just standing there smiling for the camera.
But OBAMA didn't cause this. He didn't start the birthers movement. Provided exactly the same documents that every candidate must present.
Therefore, even though you feel he could stop the movement, he's hardly to BLAME for the movement.
Originally posted by Evisscerator
The OP of this thread is a disinformation specialist.
Originally posted by oneclickaway
Neither is anyone. You just don’t get it.
Ok you are bringing up totally different assertions now.
1) The kenyan BC has not been authenticated.
Absolutely correct. Nobody is saying it has been.
I don’t suppose experts in Kenyan history have yet bothered to look at it.
Nobody at this stage knows whether this certificate is fake or real