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NYC CAN Plaintiffs Take City to Court

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posted on Jul, 31 2009 @ 04:47 PM
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NYC CAN News Bulletin - FORWARD WIDELY
July 31, 2009

9/11 Family Members, and Survivor File for Re-validation of Citizens’ Signatures with New York State Supreme Court, following rejection of NYC CAN petition by the City Clerk and Board of Elections

New York City– On Wednesday, several 9/11 victim family members and a survivor took the first step in challenging the City Clerk’s rejection of the NYC CAN petition for a new investigation in New York City. The group filed a Verified Petition/Order to Show Cause with the Supreme Court of the State of New York requesting a review of Board of Election documentation and a ‘special referee’ appointed to re-validate the over 52,000 signatures filed by NYC CAN on June 24th.

The NYC CAN petition was rejected by the City Clerk on Friday, July 24th, a week ago, certifying less than the minimum of 30,000 qualified signatures of electors. This benchmark, according to the Clerk’s office was not met. A ‘qualified elector’ is a registered New York City voter who was eligible to vote in the last election. According to the letter sent by the Clerk to the City Council, the NY Board of Elections validated 26,003 signatures and invalidated 24,664, leaving 1,333 that were not certified.

At a hearing scheduled for Monday, August 3rd, before a Supreme Court Justice, the plaintiffs, representing tens of thousands of concerned New Yorkers who support a new 9/11 investigation, will formally raise their request for an independent review of the Board of Elections findings. If granted by the presiding Justice, a re-validation of the petition signatures by an independent special referee will follow.

In addition to the requirement to reach the threshold of 30,000 qualified electors, the petition itself must comply with New York Municipal Home Rule Law and relevant Election Laws. The City Clerk maintains the Petition fell short in several areas but it should be emphasized that this is the legal opinion of the Corporation Counsel, the City of New York’s top lawyer, and will be challenged in court by lawyers for the five plaintiffs.

Legal advisors to the plaintiffs believe that the legal objections raised by the Corporation Counsel are specious and should be set aside, however considering the political implications and official opposition to the proposed Commission, obtaining approval for placing the referendum question on the ballet itself will be fraught with difficulty and challenge each step of the way.

The fact is historically in New York City, ballot initiatives have not been successful. The last two were denied by the City Clerk. In both cases the petitioners filed a suit and ultimately lost and thus NYC CAN anticipated the response of the Clerk. And though the odds are stacked against us, we are committed to take the next steps available to us.

Regardless of the outcome, the court case will serve to amplify the demand for a new 9/11 investigation and with lessons learned, should serve to strengthen the ability of the people to petition their government for meaningful referendums in the future.




posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 09:36 AM
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A true independent no-holds-barred investigation into 9-11 will also focus into American minds that there is an absolute need to tend to the sicknesses and injuries of the 9-11 1st responders and other sick victims of the WTC destruction and pulverization.

That does not mean to raise large sums of money and then steal the funds from the victims they were intended for. That does not mean thousands of hours of political hot air and empty rhetoric. It means actually doing something for them and following-up to ensure their needs are attended to for as long as necessary.




We, the undersigned Families, First Responders and Survivors of September 11 raise our voice with those from across our country and around the world in support of NYC CAN and the establishment of an independent, impartial subpoena powered investigation into the events surrounding the September 11 attacks on our nation.

We believe a new investigation is our only path forward to the answers and accountability every American deserves and our only path back to the moral high ground upon which our great nation was built.

We unite with NYC CAN and the citizens of the City of New York in support of an unbiased nonpolitical rendering of evidence and fact wherever they may lead and ask every American and every concerned citizen of the world, in defense of our nation and in defense of freedom, to join with us today.

www.nyccan.org...




What President Obama means is to hell with Truth. Since the 9-11 1st responders decided to rebel and attempted to bring their 504 testimonies and 19000 pages of testimony before the 9-11 Whitewash Commission; the Federal Government and President Obama has declared them persona non grata and the Federal Government and the city and state of New York will not lift one finger to address their sickness and injuries. Let them die off and just go away is now official policy.

(warning - viewer beware - government propaganda film)



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 10:04 AM
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That's a pipe dream.

What part of the law don't they understand yet? It's not even in NYC's jurisdiction:

911links.webs.com...
911links.webs.com...



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 10:13 AM
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I thought that they hired some top elections attorney?

What happened with that? Didn't he do his job? Aren't you guys angry that some of your donated pizza money got paid to that attorney, and the outcome is THIS miserable defeat?


But hey, go ahead and send MORE money. It's what they want you to do.



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 10:19 AM
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Yes jthomas a pipe dream to you and other supporters of the 9-11 perps; but a DREAM to the families of the 9-11 victims and the survivors and 1st responders nonetheless. What would you care about a DREAM of justice and a full explanation of what actually happened and a punishment for those responsible? What would you care about the punishment of those US Military officers deliberately lying to the 9-11 Whitewash Commission and to the US Congress?

These good people have a DREAM jthomas, and they are working hard and earnestly for that DREAM, and we on this side of the gallows will continue to work hard assisting them in their DREAM.


We, the undersigned Families, First Responders and Survivors of September 11 raise our voice with those from across our country and around the world in support of NYC CAN and the establishment of an independent, impartial subpoena powered investigation into the events surrounding the September 11 attacks on our nation.

We believe a new investigation is our only path forward to the answers and accountability every American deserves and our only path back to the moral high ground upon which our great nation was built.

We unite with NYC CAN and the citizens of the City of New York in support of an unbiased nonpolitical rendering of evidence and fact wherever they may lead and ask every American and every concerned citizen of the world, in defense of our nation and in defense of freedom, to join with us today.


Signatories to the NYC CAN petition for a new investigation in New York City



Family Members

Donna Marsh O’Connor — Mother of Vanessa Lang Langer
Bob McIlvaine — Father of Bobby McIlvaine
Helen McIlvaine — Mother of Bobby McIlvaine
Jean Canavan — Sister in Law of Sean Canavan
Manny Badillo — Nephew of Thomas Joseph Sgroi
Chris Burke — Brother of Tom Burke
Michele Little — Sister of David M. Weiss
Lorie Van Auken — Wife of Kenneth Van Auken
Monica Gabrielle — Wife of Richard S. Gabrielle
Patricia Casazza — Wife of John Casazza
Mindy Kleinberg — Wife of Alan Kleinberg
Robin Della Rocca — Aunt of Vanessa Lang Langer
Michelle Madden — Mother of Richard B. Madden
Barry Zelman — Brother of Kenneth Zelman
Margaret Canavan — Mother of Sean Canavan
Ciaran Canavan — Brother of Sean Canavan
Celine Traynor — Sister of Sean Canavan
Kathleen McKeon — Sister of Sean Canavan
Teresa McCaffery — Sister of Sean Canavan
Mimi Kelly Donegan — Sister of Bill Kelly Jr.
Vera Murphy Trayner — Wife of Patrick Sean Murphy
Gayle Baker — Sister of William A. Karnes
Cynthia Droz — Wife of Charles A. Droz
Cherie Faircloth — Sister in Law of John Resta
Lorraine Moskal — Wife of William D. Moskal
Paul E. Geidel — Father of Gary Geidel, FDNY
Teresa Badillo — Sister of Thomas J. Sgroi
John Sgroi — Brother of Thomas J. Sgroi
Eileen Sgroi — Sister-in-law of Thomas J. Sgroi
Anthony Badillo — Nephew of Thomas J. Sgroi
Lauren Badillo — Niece of Thomas J. Sgroi
Ann F. Rago — Aunt of Thomas J. Sgroi
Susan McCormick — Sister of Lt. Paul T. Mitchell
Thomas Resta — Brother of John Resta,
Sylvia San Pio Resta, and their unborn baby
Robert Carlo FDNY — Brother of Michael Carlo, FDNY
Ivy Moreno — Mother of Yvette Nicole Moreno
JoAnn Meehan — Mother of Collen Ann Barkow
Maureen Santora — Mother of Christopher A. Santora
Al Santora — Father of Christopher A. Santora
Maureen Godshalk — Mother of Bill Godshalk
Adele Welty — Timothy Matthew Welty, FDNY
Gila Barzvi — Mother of Guy Barzvi
Robert T. O’Connor — Stepfather of Vanessa Lang Langer
Robert Andreacchio — John Andreacchio
Dolores LaVerde — Mother of Jeannine LaVerde
Madeleine Zuccala — Wife of Joseph J. Zuccala
Madeline Bergin — Wife of John P. Bergin, FDNY
Nancy Yambem — Wife of Jupiter Yambem
Patricia J. Perry — Mother of John W. Perry
James L. Perry — Father of John W. Perry
Joel R. Perry — Brother of John W. Perry
Janice Perry Montoya — Sister of John W. Perry
Maureen Hunt — Sister of Kathleen Hunt Casey
Patricia Reilly — Sister of Lorraine Mary Riley
Jo Anne Bruehert — Wife of Richard G. Bruehert
Cathy D'Alessandro — Sister of Rocco Nino Gargano
Richard Pecorella — Fiancee of Karen S. Juday
Renee Stahlman, — Mother of Eric Stahlman
Sam Stahlman — Father of Eric Stahlman
Gary Meo — Best Friend of Eric Stahlman
Judith Hobson — Mother of Robert Wayne Hobson, III
Michelle Spinelli — Frank Spinelli
Christopher Spinelli — Frank Spinelli
Manuela Nita-Vasquez — Wife of Cono Gallo
Janine Winter — Cousin of Kathryn LaBorie
Alissa Torres — Wife of Luis Eduardo Torres
Robert Mercado — Brother in Law of Marc David Sullins
John M. Ulhich — Cousin of Bradley Van Hoorn
Madeline Smith — Mother of Jeffrey R. Smith
Audrey Magnuson — Wife of Ronald Magnuson
Christine O'Neill — Wife of John P. O'Neill, FBI
Sally Asaro — Sister of Carl F. Asaro, FDNY
Buzz Smith — Father of Jeffrey R. Smith
Myrta Gschaar — Wife of Robert Gschaar
Joanna Jakubiak — Daughter of Maria Jakubiak
Carol Eckna — Mother of Paul Robert Eckna
Stanley Eckna — Father of Paul Robert Eckna
Richard Eckna — Brother of Paul Robert Eckna
Maria R. Fisher — Sister of Andrew Fisher
Margaret Mauro — Sister of Dorothy Mauro
Eileen Woods — Sister of James Woods

Survivors

Janette MacKinlay
William Rodriguez
James G. Lecce
Gregory P. Mango
Robert Clouser
Raymond Hayden
Eileen Coles
Linda Abbott
Sue Astacio
Miguel Espinal
Daniel Lenahan
Nancy Siesel
Sharron L. Clemons
Michael Hughes
Sharon Wlosek

First Responders

Edith Beaujon
John Feal
Charlie Giles
Regina Cervantes
Steve Centore
Pat McQuillan
Bill Gleason
John Schroeder
Joey Rapps
Thomas Mecir
Ed Potkay
David Kirolos
Ben Strutt
Brian Carswell
Robert Penn
Justin Frank

www.nyccan.org...





posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by Joey Canoli
I thought that they hired some top elections attorney?

What happened with that? Didn't he do his job? Aren't you guys angry that some of your donated pizza money got paid to that attorney, and the outcome is THIS miserable defeat?


But hey, go ahead and send MORE money. It's what they want you to do.


So, when you watch the media, who pays for it? Advertisers. Who paid for the NIST paper that failed to draw a conclusion? Taxpayers. So when you speak lines of utter hogwash like


go ahead and send MORE money. It's what they want you to do.


it becomes obvious that you don't even have a basic understanding of how society works. You paid for the failed investigation out of your own pocket. You paid for the MSM coverage out of your own pocket.


How much money was spent on this endeavor? Where is your source? How much money was spent on this petition? And how does it compare to how much money was spent on the other side? Good luck with that. You wont provide it tho because you don't have the skills.



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 10:45 AM
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posted by jthomas
That's a pipe dream.

What part of the law don't they understand yet? It's not even in NYC's jurisdiction:

911links.webs.com...
911links.webs.com...


Nonsense jthomas. It is within the jurisdiction of any grand jury in the country, when the perpetrator of a crime is investigating itself.


First, the federal government has jurisdiction over an investigation into the attacks which took place on September 11 as well as the causes of those attacks.

911links.webs.com...

Our good defender of the 9-11 OFFICIAL STORY jthomas would obviously prefer that the US Government investigate itself. But it is the DREAM of the 9-11 families and survivors and 1st responders and we good people within the 9-11 Truth Movement that the 9-11 perps not be allowed to investigate themselves any longer, and that a true independent investigation with professional honest experienced investigators with full subpoena and sequestering and indictment and relocation protective powers allowed to take place.

What could be wrong with that?



[edit on 8/1/09 by SPreston]



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 10:58 AM
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Here's your guy:

www.journeyintothemystic.com...

Dennis P. McMahon is a writer, editor, and attorney living in Brooklyn, New York.

After experiencing what he would later describe as spontaneous mystical events, Dennis became deeply involved in seeking explanations thru shamanism, past-life regressions, communications with the dead, and the like.

Here's the professional work he does. Personally, I like the crossed out names on the filing. Guess he couldn't be bothered to start over and make it look a little more professional, eh? Guess he doesn't own a typewriter either........

iapps.courts.state.ny.us...



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 11:30 AM
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I don't have "a guy", way to be an ass.

Now, when your serious about research you'll find 2 other documents filed within the same court system and compare them.

BTW in what state or states have you passed the bar exam?



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 11:44 AM
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Well, not you personally.

But he's definitely NYC CAN(T)'s guy, right?

Don't forget to donate!!! They need your finacial help !!!

Funny thing though, they petition only addresses the number of eligible names.

What about all the other issues that their petition failed on? What are they gonna do about that?

I guess more research is needed.

PS - don't forget to donate!!!



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 11:47 AM
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So no research then? Bummer. I love it when you guys use ad hom and nothing else. It makes my job SO much easier.



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 11:56 AM
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They're petitioning the number of names only.

What about the other issues?



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 12:03 PM
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How interesting. Christine O’Neil, wife of ex-FBI Agent John O’Neil, apparently murdered inside the WTC on 9-11, has signed on to a new NYCCAN investigation into 9-11.



Renowned whistleblower and former FBI agent Coleen Rowley, who TIME magazine selected as one of three “Persons of the Year” in 2002, endorsed a new investigation yesterday, as reported by RAWSTORY . Bill Doyle, who lost his son Joseph, has been an outspoken leader of an active community of relatives of the 9/11 victims and he too released a statement endorsing a new inquiry in New York. Joining Doyle in support as signatory to an NYC CAN online petition is Christine O’Neil, wife of ex-FBI Agent John O’Neil, who was killed on the job at the World Trade Center and Lorie Van Auken, a widow from New Jersey and former member of the 9/11 Family Steering Committee.

Eileen Coles, an US Air Force Desert Storm veteran and former intelligence officer, stated, “Our only way forward to restore our national honor is to answer the questions and demand accountability. This will not happen without a truly impartial and scientific examination of the evidence.”

source



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by SPreston

These good people have a DREAM jthomas, and they are working hard and earnestly for that DREAM, and we on this side of the gallows will continue to work hard assisting them in their DREAM.


Given that you screwed up by not following the rules and had the audacity to ask people to donate hard-earned money to finance your complete lack of due diligence, it looks like you screwed them out of their dream, doesn't it?

Shall I have them contact you for a refund?



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 12:30 PM
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Originally posted by Joey Canoli
reply to post by jprophet420
 


Here's your guy:

www.journeyintothemystic.com...

Dennis P. McMahon is a writer, editor, and attorney living in Brooklyn, New York.

After experiencing what he would later describe as spontaneous mystical events, Dennis became deeply involved in seeking explanations thru shamanism, past-life regressions, communications with the dead, and the like.

Here's the professional work he does. Personally, I like the crossed out names on the filing. Guess he couldn't be bothered to start over and make it look a little more professional, eh? Guess he doesn't own a typewriter either........

iapps.courts.state.ny.us...


And here's another one of his guys:


"William Pepper, legal counsel for NYC CAN and a slated commissioner if the referendum is approved, said that despite the municipal mandate of the commission, its subpoena power would, in effect, range far beyond the city line."

www.thevillager.com...


I wonder what Pepper's fee is for screwing up.




[edit on 1-8-2009 by jthomas]



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 12:35 PM
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posted by SPreston

These good people have a DREAM jthomas, and they are working hard and earnestly for that DREAM, and we on this side of the gallows will continue to work hard assisting them in their DREAM.


posted by jthomas

Given that you screwed up by not following the rules and had the audacity to ask people to donate hard-earned money to finance your complete lack of due diligence, it looks like you screwed them out of their dream, doesn't it?

Shall I have them contact you for a refund?


Starting up yet another strawman argument jthomas? I don't ask for or collect funds for anyone. I do donate and I never ask for a refund for any reason.

However isn't it interesting how many 9-11 WTC Families and Survivors and 1st Responders are apparently donating and asking for a real investigation into 9-11 don't you think jthomas? Are you still attempting to speak for them? Have they requested your help recently jthomas, or was that another falsehood on your part?

post by SPreston



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by SPreston

However isn't it interesting how many 9-11 WTC Families and Survivors and 1st Responders are apparently donating and asking for a real investigation into 9-11 don't you think jthomas?


How fascinating that no one interfered with them yet they screwed up and didn't even know how to do a petition or WHO to submit it to.

But given your position as one consistently denying the evidence and pushing your "Official 9/11 Truth Movement Conspiracy Theory" instead of the truth, there's not much hope that they will get yet another investigation. Just look at the failure even to refute anything of the real investigations that have already taken place.

Gosh....







posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 01:16 PM
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How fascinating that no one interfered with them yet they screwed up and didn't even know how to do a petition or WHO to submit it to.

Whom did they submit it to originally? Its submitted to the proper authorities in the links here.



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 02:34 PM
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Originally posted by jprophet420

How fascinating that no one interfered with them yet they screwed up and didn't even know how to do a petition or WHO to submit it to.

Whom did they submit it to originally? Its submitted to the proper authorities in the links here.


I've already given you this link: 911links.webs.com...



posted on Aug, 1 2009 @ 02:53 PM
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I really don’t care how you feel as the word for someone like you is "skell"

You sound like a dirty lawyer trying to get his guilty client off on a technicality.

I have to say you and all the other boot lickers like you are disgusting human beings.
You can come here all day and make your cowardly little comments but it will not change anything, we will keep moving forward until we are all gone.

The only pipe dream here is your foolish assumption that we would forget our Brothers, Sisters and fellow New Yorkers over the comments of a spoiled little brat.



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