WTF is up with former MI5 David Shayler?!?! Cross dressing now?, page 2


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reply posted on 26-7-2009 @ 05:39 PM by orwellianunenlightenment
And I just wanted to add something that is not necessarily true, but that seems true to me nonetheless. Let me first state that I am a man, so I have at least a tinge of bias in this regard.

I see what is classically feminine as more of a continuum. I see that which is masculine as more of a focus. As men had a monopoly on external power, the split offered women a sort of monopoly on subconscious, spiritual influence. Women could not even be allowed to directly think of slaying their enemies, so they manipulated these fabrics into men to do their bidding. On the flip side, men were not allowed to dive in to their own intuitive faculties, so they dominated women with the aim of accentuating all of the beautiful aspects of spiritual influence. The one and the other are always intertwined.

Women have been angry at men for domination, but until they are allowed into the feminine arena, the arena of supporting influence, it can be no other way. Men have been angry at women for manipulation, but until women are allowed active participation, it can be no other way. I guess I am just asking people to have an open mind about how the one feeds the other, so we can move past this blame game as a society. It seems so simple to me. I think that we should all strive to be masters, not merely try to divide us into 2 groups, one the master and the other the slave. With either in ascendancy, there is unbridled manipulation and domination, both existing hand in hand. We are then ALL OF US slaves. We need to see the roots.



reply posted on 28-7-2009 @ 03:07 PM by Majestic23
Originally posted by orwellianunenlightenment
And I just wanted to add something that is not necessarily true, but that seems true to me nonetheless. Let me first state that I am a man, so I have at least a tinge of bias in this regard.

I see what is classically feminine as more of a continuum. I see that which is masculine as more of a focus. As men had a monopoly on external power, the split offered women a sort of monopoly on subconscious, spiritual influence. Women could not even be allowed to directly think of slaying their enemies, so they manipulated these fabrics into men to do their bidding. On the flip side, men were not allowed to dive in to their own intuitive faculties, so they dominated women with the aim of accentuating all of the beautiful aspects of spiritual influence. The one and the other are always intertwined.

Women have been angry at men for domination, but until they are allowed into the feminine arena, the arena of supporting influence, it can be no other way. Men have been angry at women for manipulation, but until women are allowed active participation, it can be no other way. I guess I am just asking people to have an open mind about how the one feeds the other, so we can move past this blame game as a society. It seems so simple to me. I think that we should all strive to be masters, not merely try to divide us into 2 groups, one the master and the other the slave. With either in ascendancy, there is unbridled manipulation and domination, both existing hand in hand. We are then ALL OF US slaves. We need to see the roots.


Beautifully put Orwell, indeed, if we are to grow into something of utopian enlightened race then this balance must be achieved on a personal level and on the level of society. In terms of society I think it comes down to communication, not everyone will transcend duality at this time so the actual understanding of the opposing thought patterns is a goal that could be attained.


reply posted on 1-8-2009 @ 02:33 PM by Majestic23
Originally posted by northexpedition
Weird. Remember David Icke saying he was the "Son of God"?

Seems rather suspect, since Shayler was very articulate.

www.myspace.com...

Of course, I had my suspicions when I added him on Myspace...



The simularity to Icke is very apparent. The gutter press is coming out with the same old stuff too and linking them to each other incessantly. Iam sort of stumped on this one, I cant find much to explain it.

Did he steal that hat off J K?


reply posted on 4-7-2010 @ 08:59 AM by The Wave
reply to post by Solomons



Hi!

I can tell you easily - my best mate committed suicide after smoking joints (he used to 'see' monsters at the windows whilst none of tus us could....)

If takng 'substances' (read 'Doors of Perception' by Aldous Huxley) you need to be quite sure who you are an why you are doping it - for expansion or for a cheap thrill? If not - sure it can damage you - like my mate.

Peace"!

[edit on 4-7-2010 by The Wave]


reply posted on 21-7-2010 @ 11:22 AM by Nicorette
What an interesting story. I've not heard of this fellow before since I am not in the UK, but I was very intrigued by the Daily Mail story, which certainly looked like a slam job.

So I looked around some more. He has a
website where he talks more about the transvestism, and a YouTube channel that hasn't been updated in over a year.

Unfortunately after watching the first video, I have to concur he has gone nutters. I don't like to call people crazy, whatever they believe. The transvestism doesn't bother me, or living in a commune, or growing hemp, but if you claim to be Jesus, I do have to draw a line somewhere. Then again, maybe it is an Icke-like journey and the religion delusion will slip away.

Intriguing. Thank you OP.

edit: fixed link

[edit on 7/21/2010 by Nicorette]


reply posted on 2-3-2011 @ 07:46 AM by VisitorQ
This guy was a serious and trustworthy person some years ago. He was interviewed at length in the Alex Jones movie where he goes to London to investigate the London bombings.

I was shocked to see a documentary/interview some time ago when he proclaimed himself the son of God and Jesus and what not. And now he's even cross-dressing?

My thoughts goes to Charlie Sheen and his recent "madness" and "outbursts" which seems out of place and he's hurting the "cause" he has been standing up for together with Alex Jones.

It seems to me that the PTB have technology that can induce this kind of "madness" in people. Especially people who are "unstable" from before.

As with David Shayler he has worked in the system and MK ultra stuff might have been programmed into him at some point. With Sheen I think his instability makes him vulnerable to some kind of technology that affects his mind.

So, this begs the question. Why does the elite target these two people and not people like Alex Jones and David Icke and many others?

Shayler had credibility due to being an insider and Sheen has massive mainstream impact due to his status as as star (especially in the US).

AJ and Icke are both easy to label as "conspiracy nut jobs" for anyone hooked to the matrix.

The PTB will target people like Shayler and Sheen because if they can get them to act nutty and talk crazy they will severely impact people in the mainstream (or on the fence) to label anyone talking about these things as nut jobs...

The audience of people like AJ and Icke are not going to be swayed so easily, so this makes these people less of a target. Also they are too committed in their cause to be easily influenced.
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