WTF is up with former MI5 David Shayler?!?! Cross dressing now?

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posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 02:59 PM
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Uhhhh, does anyone know what is up with David Shayler?

www.dailymail.co.uk...

This is the first I have heard of him having a breakdown, is the press trashing him just like Icke or has he been pressured by the powers? Has he really lost his grip?




posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:04 PM
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That pic......lololol..Priceless...

Who is this guy and what did he uncover?



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:22 PM
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He passed on a lot of info to the press about the British governments corruption and apparent fear of socialists. He and his girlfriend also former intelligence wrote a book and divulged a lot of info about assasination plots and false flag stuff. He got put in jail a few times for divulging secrets. He joined the conspiracy movement and was pretty sharp and respected. He got into the deeper spiritual aspects of the conspiracies and seemed to be ok until recently.

He knew fat too much though and seen as though he actually worked for the intelligence agencies he had an air of credability.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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If you want to refute a whistleblower, or discredit them so that people won't believe their story, give them a choice. Fifty years in prison or go out in public and say your Jesus and crossdress. It looks like he chose the public breakdown.

Now his credibility is screwed, his 911 theories are a joke and the TPTB have won again

Poor bloke!



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:32 PM
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Or...............

An MKULTRA type program at work.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by MajesticJax
Or...............

An MKULTRA type program at work.



........took the words right out of mouth so you did squire! Iam working on it Jax.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by MajesticJax
Or...............

An MKULTRA type program at work.


Absobloodylutely what I was thinking, what better way to discredit a very credible person that could wreck TPTB plans of world domineering than to mess with the brain and completely change them into a laughing stock.

The subconscious and the concious are 2 different entities after all.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 03:58 PM
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Maybe he just wants to be jesus wanabee transvestite? i agree its unlikely...but he is human and people can do some strange things at the drop of a hat.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:01 PM
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Isn't it more likely he's lost his marbles because of his self confessed use of cannabis & magic mushrooms ?

And that he's experiencing a major psychotic episode, one of his own making ?

He obviously needs help.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:06 PM
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Please tell me how magic mushrooms or marijuana can turn someone insane...i don't think you will be able to because it's not true.Psychotic episodes from hallucinogens are completely unproven,and the marijuana link is just anti-drug propaganda not based in facts or evidence aswell.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:12 PM
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Originally posted by Ulala
Isn't it more likely he's lost his marbles because of his self confessed use of cannabis & magic mushrooms ?

And that he's experiencing a major psychotic episode, one of his own making ?

He obviously needs help.


Thats just strictly not true, magic mushrooms and cannabis will not in any case whatsoever, force you in to a psychotic episode where you will want to change who you are (physically) for the rest of your life.

Maybe through the drug use he has witnessed some things outside the box that he wants to follow, it explains the rainbow movement, but the cross dressing and mind shift of personality?

Edit: Solomons beat me to it


[edit on 26-7-2009 by franspeakfree]



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:14 PM
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There is no proof whatsoever such subsances can turn you insane. Furthermore insanity and sanity are a fine line. Those who we percieve to be insane are simply seeing more that our brains useually percieve. Many geniuses had frontal and temporal lobe epilepsy and damage etc... This is why brain damage can lead to spiritual experiences, increased artisitc ability and so on.

On that tip many spiritualistic people exhibit gender swapping behaviour, he is even claiming that Jesus was a transvestite. This is because anyone who is transcending duality loses their sexual characteristics.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:25 PM
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Tina Turner comes to mind



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:45 PM
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Working for MI5 & MI6 obviously isn't good for one's sanity. I always wondered what became of Dougal from the Magic Roundabout. He's on Shayler's head!


What could possibly make someone go crazy in such a short space of time. Could Shayler have been got at by MI5 or MI6 with their mind control microwave machines that Tim Rifat always talks about

www.whale.to...

en.wikipedia.org...



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 04:53 PM
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Keep your eyes open for more whistleblowers like himself to start to have breakdowns. As some one mentioned it's the best way to discredit someone.

A dead 'hero' is a rally point for any followers. A broken hero (especially a cross dressing one..sigh.. ) is harmless.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by kindred
Working for MI5 & MI6 obviously isn't good for one's sanity. I always wondered what became of Dougal from the Magic Roundabout. He's on Shayler's head!


What could possibly make someone go crazy in such a short space of time. Could Shayler have been got at by MI5 or MI6 with their mind control microwave machines that Tim Rifat always talks about

www.whale.to...

en.wikipedia.org...



Thanks for the links! This is another possibility that cant be ruled out (or in for that matter)...this is gonna be a tough one to make full sense of. I think as you said the speed of the reakdown is alarming to say the least, he was giving talks a few months earlier. So much for the people who said he was doing it for money!



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by king9072
Keep your eyes open for more whistleblowers like himself to start to have breakdowns. As some one mentioned it's the best way to discredit someone.

A dead 'hero' is a rally point for any followers. A broken hero (especially a cross dressing one..sigh.. ) is harmless.


So true, dont make a martyr of your enemies. The intelligence services know that, so why cause this stuff in the middle east as they do? Lends credance to a lot of what he proclaimed on many occasions.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 05:11 PM
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He most certainly could have been programmed for this display. Nevertheless, he could have just had a breakdown. The truth is a very difficult thing to handle. As has been stated, spirituality transcends gender. However, we live in a dualistic world that is divide and conquer all the way down. It could have been that in the process of uniting the fragments imposed by society, that he instead flipped those fragments, allowing the feminine to dominate the masculine. Add to that that it is far more acceptable for a woman to play whichever role is more expedient at the time than it is for a man. Society seems to not quite be ready for united man, as woman has been in this process openly for the last 50 years or so in the west. There will be a balance struck. Androgynous woman is paired with androgynous man, whether society likes it or not. I think that maybe he couldn't achieve balance and just flipped instead.



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 05:14 PM
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What is said about martyrdom is true. If you make a martyr of somebody, you strengthen their cause, without fail. So, if you are going to divide and conquer your enemy, split them into 2 groups diametrically opposed, and make martyrs in each group. They will then be invigorated in their process for mutual annihilation, killing each other instead of TPTB. One does not make a martyr of one's direct enemy.

[edit on 26-7-2009 by orwellianunenlightenment]



posted on Jul, 26 2009 @ 05:16 PM
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Maybe he's doing it deliberately to get attention to the 2012 question and the elite supression of hemp as a food/clothing/energy source which will bee needed in times of economic strife.

Also, I wonder how many other people are now going to go to his farm in surrey to squat and set up a hemp farm for the impending economic collapse?

It's a great publiciy stunt IMO

I still have respect for him becsuse his underlying message is there





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