Alien weapons

I was reading about some wierd alien weapons the govmt got from greys or whatever. The problem is that everything is vague. I bet i could make one if i knew more (A friend and I made a nuclear fission reactor from smoke detector americium241 and a Po210 alpha source with aluminum foil to create neutrons, 4 hours ago).

i doubt that they got any weapons, maybe like research stuff but thats about it, for the most part people have been speculating that aliens are of a peace ful race, and thus dont want trouble, and thats why they are urging the governments to stop nuclear testing. even if they have special weapons, use it for protection on their planet or planets, you know how we have weapons that would destroy the earth, they probably have weapons that would destroy the universe.

ccol... not really i don't wanna play with that!

Originally posted by DanD9
I was reading about some wierd alien weapons the govmt got from greys or whatever. The problem is that everything is vague. I bet i could make one if i knew more (A friend and I made a nuclear fission reactor from smoke detector americium241 and a Po210 alpha source with aluminum foil to create neutrons, 4 hours ago).

You created nuclear fission?
No....


NO

really i am 90 percent sure i did. to read more of it go to reactor.7h.com

remember it is only a milligram or something of the Am-241, couldn't possiblry make a huge temperature increase very fast

and the radiation oncologist at my mom's hospital said it could work, remember americium is fissionable, there is a film of it on the radiation source from the smoke detector

are u sure its safe to make that stuff?
i mean u sure it only emits alpha particals ?

Why does everyone think that "the greys" have super advanced tech? Einstein was working on ideas that involved gravity and magnetism shortly after his work on the atomic bomb. Since then i have seen little (advanced) work done on either of these two fields.

Maybe the greys figured out magnetism and the inner workings of gravity first and found little use for fission and fusion in their daily lives? (not nearly as efficient)

Maybe they have little to no Uranium or plutonium where they are at? maybe our tech and their tech are not so far apart after all?

I have also heard that the grey skin of the greys may actually be a space suit of sorts... and with recent invention of this "aerogel" mentioned elsewhere here at ATS, it can be used in this fashion...

they may use magnetism to fly their ships through space and create crop circles, obviously the have far greater knowledge of space then us. but how long have they been around compared to modern man?

but then again they may only be coming from the planet Mars?

since we have little "proof" of any technology that the greys have, we may actually be FAR superior to them..

but then again they may have lasers that can cut a hole to the center of the Earth... who knows?


eyes open people, deny ignorance.

(no i cant spell)
[Edited on 5-8-2004 by MTZ]

[Edited on 5-8-2004 by MTZ]

I've heard different stories about how the aliens showed us the microchip and we got our technology from them to build the Stealth fighter jets.

It wasn't just alpha. It was also neutrons and gamma. I also don't really believe in the greys, I just thought that if the technology described works, it may be true. I heard thet about stealth, but seeing how the govmt used little stealth in the sr71 and progressively got better at it, it seemed to have been a human development, because if we got it from aliens, we would have good (like today's) stealth right away, right?

Originally posted by DanD9
It wasn't just alpha. It was also neutrons and gamma.

woooooh are you saying u built something that sends out gama particles?
if u did how much lead was between u and the reactor?

I didn't use lead. I just stayed away like 2-3 meters and every minute went back to measure temperature. It was only a milligram of americium anyways. The spent americium "dot" didn't measure on my dad's radiation detector. Should have given dose of like a dentist's xray or so.

Originally posted by DanD9
I was reading about some wierd alien weapons the govmt got from greys or whatever. The problem is that everything is vague. I bet i could make one if i knew more (A friend and I made a nuclear fission reactor from smoke detector americium241 and a Po210 alpha source with aluminum foil to create neutrons, 4 hours ago).

There was a kid who sometime in the last few years did something very simmilar to what you did. He was in Time magazine a couple of months back. He got in a bit of trouble with the Feds. I'll try to find a link.

EDIT: David Hahn The Radioactive Boy Scout

Hahn tried to do this to get a merit badge!



[Edited on 9-5-2004 by Facefirst]

whoah! i won't do that again if that is real! Is it real for sure? Well, I'm done wih that anyways. There is nothing I can do about it after I did it.

Originally posted by DanD9
whoah! i won't do that again if that is real! Is it real for sure? Well, I'm done wih that anyways. There is nothing I can do about it after I did it.

It is very real. The person was in Time magazine a few months ago. It was an article on genius behavior.

that's scary! i guess it is illegal, then. I should find out more law, ignorance is no excuse!

You must be star war fans, the alien weapon isn't exist.
Do you know that china have the adv laser guns weapon. The gun can defeat the any icbm in the mid sky.
I hope that see this real weapon's pic! china want to set up the icbm defence system in future.

You can see the more detail information. The PLA have been the more new adv weapons. Now china become the very stronger in this world. The PLA can defeat the taiwan's army.
www.sinodefence.com...

Though China is getting more powerful it is still not that stonger compare to other militaries of the world. Other countries that have bought military ships from China said they were the worst they had ever seen and could not performed as they were claimed.

Hey: jetsetter
The Chinese Navy, namely the People�s Liberation Army Navy (PLAN) was established in 1950, with the demise left by the Nationalist Navy and helps from the Soviet Union. Under the �People�s War� military strategy, the PLA Navy was only viewed as a maritime extension of the land forces for seaward and coastal defence, and its evolution was heavily influenced by this strategy.

During the 1950s and 1960s, the PLAN focused on defending China's mainland from amphibious assault -- first from the perceived U.S. threat and, later, from the perceived threat from the Soviet Union as its relationship with that country soured. Naval acquisitions were almost solely from existing Soviet systems and platforms, and defensive tactics were largely modelled after the Soviet example. During these years, the PLA developed a large fleet of relatively inexpensive (and thus expendable) missile boats, diesel submarines, and conventional attacker and bomber aircraft, which could be used in a mass attack on amphibious units and their escorts. The few destroyer-sized combatants acquired by the PLAN during this period were modelled primarily post-World War II-era Russian designs.

The PLA Navy comprises five branches: Surface Combatants, Submarine, Naval Aviation, Coastal Defence, and Marine Corps. The whole service is manned by approximately 268,000 officers and soldiers. Most PLA Navy officers are educated to the degree level in Navy or civil colleges. Conscripts serve for two years, and a Non-Commissioned Officer (NCO) force has been built up to support the navy�s requirement for more professional staffs.

In recent years, the PLAN's maritime mission has evolved from a role of static coastal defence to one of �active offshore defence�. In this capacity, the PLAN can be used both as a tactical force and to support strategic national defence. The objectives of this new strategy are to assert China's role as a regional maritime power, to protect coastal economic regions and maritime interests, and to optimise the Navy's operations for national defence. The PLAN's responsibilities now include capture and defence of islands, and protection and blockade of sea-lanes of communication. Moreover, the PLAN is increasingly viewed by senior PLA leadership as integral to resolution of the Taiwan issue -- should force be required -- and for safeguarding China's Xisha and Nansha Islands in the South China Sea. Finally, the PLAN is likely to be increasingly used as an instrument of overseas diplomacy through participation in goodwill cruises and port visits.

The PLAN's evolving strategy has been described in terms of two distinct phases. The strategy's first phase is for the PLAN to develop a "green water active defence strategy" capability. This "green water" generally is described as being encompassed within an arc swung from Vladivostok to the north, to the Strait of Malacca to the south, and out to the "first island chain" (Aleutians, Kuriles, Ryukyus, Taiwan, Philippines, and Greater Sunda islands) to the east. Analysts have assessed that the PLAN is likely to attain this green water capability early in the 21st century. Open-source writings also suggest that the PLAN intends to develop a capability to operate in the "second island chain" (Bonins, Guam, Marianas, and Palau islands) by the mid-21st century. In the future, the PLAN also may expand its operations to bases in Myanmar, Burma. These bases will provide the PLAN with direct access to the Strait of Malacca and the Bay of Bengal.

the future military ship including: type of 054 FFG
type of 052C DDG
type of 052B DDG

I love the Sovremenny Class (Project 956) Missile Destroyer. This ship have adv weapon and anti-air radar.

WEAPONS

The Project 956 Sovremenny class was designed in the 1970s to confront the U.S. Navy Aegis cruisers and aircraft carrier combat groups. The Sovremenny class was designed primarily for surface action operations. The most lethal weapon on this destroyer is the eight 3M-80E Moskit (SS-N-22 Sunburn) supersonic anti-ship cruise missiles, which can attack surface targets 160 km away at a speed of 2.5 Mach. The Sovremenny class is also fitted with two 9M38/SA-N-7 Gadfly SAM launchers capable of area-defence.

Anti-Ship Missiles: 3M-80E Moskit (Russian: Mosquito) (NATO codename: SS-N-22 Sunburn) antiship missile system, two 4-cell launchers with 8 antiship missiles; active/passive radar homing to 160 km at 2.5 (attack 4.5) Mach, warhead 300 kg, sea skimmer
SAM: 9M38 (SA-N-7 Gadfly) SAM, two single launchers with 48 air defence missiles; semi-active radar and IR homing to 25 km at 3 Mach, warhead 70 kg, multiple channels of fire
Guns
Four 130 mm/70 calibre AK-130 multi-purpose guns (two twin), with 2,000 rounds, 35~45 rd/min to 29.5 km
Four six-barrel 30 mm AK-630 air defence gun with 16,000 cartridges, 3,000 rd/min to 2 km
Torpedoes: 2 twin-barrel 533 mm torpedo tubes
Anti-Submarine Rockets: Two six-barrel RBU-1000 anti-submarine rocket launchers, range 1,000 m, warhead 55 kg, 120 rockets carried for torpedo countermeasures
Mines: Mine rails for up to 40 mines.

RADAR

Air/Surface Search
Top Plate 3D, D/E-band
3 X Palm Frond, I-band
Fire Control
6 X Front Dome, F-band (for SA-N-7 control)
Kite Screach, H/I/K-band (for 130 mm gun control)
2 X Bass Tilt, H/I-band (for 30 mm AAA gun)
Weapon Control
China optronic director and laser rangefinder
Band Stand, datalink for SS-N-22
Bell Nest, 2 X Light Bulb, and 2 X Tee Pump datalinks
www.sinodefence.com...