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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
I'm sorry, but Capitalism + Healthcare = Nothing Good!
1) a publicly funded medical crisis insurance that covers heart attacks, etc.
"PRESIDENT OBAMA SUGGESTED AT A TOWN HALL EVENT Wednesday night that one way to shave medical costs is to stop expensive and ultimately futile procedures performed on people who are about to die and don't stand to gain from the extra care."As reported by Peter Nichols of the Los Angeles Times. Former Senator Daschle said “Seniors should be more accepting of the conditions that come with age instead of treating them”, Bloomberg News. “In England anyone over 59 cannot receive heart repairs or stents or bypass, because it is not covered as being too expensive and not needed”.
The entire healthcare debate is, unfortunately loaded with half-truths and lies.
That sounds all fine and dandy......until you turn 59 and need that procedure to stay alive. I don't think that is the model we want to emulate.
Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
reply to post by pavil
That sounds all fine and dandy......until you turn 59 and need that procedure to stay alive. I don't think that is the model we want to emulate.
I thought it was clear in my post that I believed that is horrific. I don't want government deciding what can and can't be performed on anyone.
Originally posted by daddyroo45
Originally posted by JaxonRoberts
OK, here's my thing. The opposition seems to have no plan at all, in other words, "It ain't broke, don't fix it!". That is total BS! It is spiralling out of control! When I was a kid, you could get good health insurance and you could get it cheap. Now most plans suck, and they are far more expensive. So, it seems the choice now is do something or do nothing. Do nothing is just not an option. SOMETHING has to be done! So if you don't like the current plan, what's yours???
It is out of control. The Hospitals have cost overruns because of people that are uninsured or have no means by which to pay the bill. That cost gets passed on to everyone with coverage. The influx of illegal aliens into this country in the last twenty years has put a terrible strain on health care facilities. That is one reason for sky rocketing health care costs. The system need fixing no doubt. If they want to build a health care system designed for illegal aliens, that would treat them and then deport them.I would vote for that!! Take the strain off the system and cost would soon settle back down to a more normal system.
Originally posted by amazed
Health coverage, IMHO should never involve making money. I know many people will hate that idea. But to me, when it is something that involves the lives and health of humanity, and especially children, profit should not be the bottom line as it is now. It can be done, we've just been brainwashed into thinking it is impossible. Humans are far more important, at least to me, than what the profit margin is. $ has become the biggest sickness of humanity to me.
Originally posted by pavil
reply to post by believer81
Thanks for the Reply. So how often do you end up utilizing your extra, paid for out of pocket health care insurance? What does it cover that the Govt plan doesn't? Just curious as to how it works as something like that will probably develop here.
It is worth noting that, while the US government is the only wealth industrialized nation that does not have universal health care, the government still spends more per capita than any other nation on health services.
It also covers urgent ambulance transport which would normally be about $100.
Originally posted by jsobecky
reply to post by believer81
It also covers urgent ambulance transport which would normally be about $100.
Wow! Your costs are much lower than here in the states. An ambulance ride here will cost you about $400-$600, easily!