BREAKING NEWS: Many More than 8 People at CIT Conference, page 1

Originally posted by 911files
Not the subject of this thread. The topic is how many folks showed up for their little get together.

You're "cherry picking" from my OP, John.

This thread is about multiple related subjects. One of them is that jthomas is spreading false rumors about "8 people" attending CIT's lecture when the real number was much higher.

It's also about another more interesting statistic (presented by me in the OP) about the attendence: "Despite "debunkers" like jthomas spending untold hours on the internet ridiculing CIT, NOT A SINGLE DEBUNKER HAD THE COURAGE TO SHOW UP TO THIS EVENT AND CHALLENGE THEIR RESEARCH. This is not surprising considering that the vast majority are anonymous individuals who refuse to debate CIT in real time over the phone as well."

It's also about "WHY the vast majority refuse to debate them on the phone let alone face to face and have to resort to making up rumors about their efforts instead".

The simple reason is also given in the OP: "jthomas and friends cannot debunk the evidence presented by CIT."

The refutation and/or evaluation of their witnesses has been done to death and they are consistent with a large plan hitting the Pentagon.

No. No one has or can refuted 13 eyewitnesses all placing the plane on the north side in firsthand accounts, which are proving that the plane did not hit the Pentagon.

If it flew a little north or south of the Citgo does not matter to me much

That's because all of the eyewitnesses on record via audio or video recorded independent interviews who were in a position to tell place it on the north, corroborating each other and proving that the plane did not hit the light poles or building in direct contradiction to your 757 impact theory, which not a single "debunker" showed up to defend, despite collectively investing hundreds of hours a week online promoting it and/or ridiculing CIT.

not one of them saw it fly over the Pentagon

Most of them didn't see it hit the Pentagon either, John, as you know. What they did all see was it flying on the north side, which, again, means that it did not hit the light poles or building, as you know.

and those in a position to see saw it hit the Pentagon.

As you know, the plane flying north of Citgo and hitting the Pentagon are mutually exclusive.

Either:

1) It hit the Pentagon and every video or audio recorded eyewitnesses in a position to tell had the same crazy hallucination about where it flew

or

2) They are all correct and the relatively small number of witnesses who were in locations from which they may have been able to see the alleged impact spot and who do genuinely believe that they saw the plane hit the building were fooled by a carefully planned deception, executed with military precision..

Prior to impact ALL of them give a different flight path assessment. Perfectly natural.

Same tired, inept argument, John. Do you never get tired of singing this song? As CIT has said over and over and over and over and are obviously correct about, eyewitnesses are not cameras. For example, I can't tell you the exact number of people who were at the conference with complete accuracy. What I can tell you for sure is that the number is much higher than 8. Likewise, as any reasonable person knows and accepts, eyewitnesses are not going to draw the same flight path down to the foot. They can be relied on for general details like which side of the gas station the plane flew on, though, especially when they all say the same thing.

[edit on 13-7-2009 by Ligon]