It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.
Please white-list or disable AboveTopSecret.com in your ad-blocking tool.
Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.
Originally posted by zorgon
But seriously dood... cut and paste text into search
Originally posted by UK Wizard
Link to Source Goes Here
When to use: When using an external source such as an online Encyclopaedia or non ATSNN news sources.
Important Note: Always remember to put where you got your quote from, and remember to include the url of the source.
As this gives the proof that it is indeed a 'real' source and secondly it credits the owner of the source.
Originally posted by wesowsley
Actually still here...as I mentioned before...my work requires near constant travel...and now that I am laptop-less (Thanks to TSA!) I can only post when I have the oppurtunity to catch up. (BTW TSA = Thousands Standing Around!)
To Arbitrageur: I would never rule anything out. My premise is that everyone is seeing something...no? What that something is...who knows. That is why I am researching this stuff.
So, my friends in Bulgaria have over 900 "UFO" reports on file just from Bulgaria's Black Sea Coast, just this for 2009. We are sure that increased US Military activity in the area (The US has formed a black sea fleet with its home port being the currently under construction Navy Homeport Varna) more than likely accounts for alot of the sightings. However, of those cases, some have trace evidence...evidence that is currently being studied. So, I don't discount anything.
Originally posted by zorgon
reply to post by jritzmann
BTW why can I not post a comment on your Paratopia?
"Your tokens have timed out. Reload the page to reset your tokens."
You mean I have to pay to post? Or are you blocking people... Heck I never even visited before
Originally posted by Arbitrageur
I see the April 1 date there, so NASA does have a sense of humor!
Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
Those space shuttles are pretty sorry-ass machines in my book, and the Orion replacement is basically polishing a turd from what I have seen. What is your personal insight on the direction you think NASA should be going as far as equipment and missions?
Originally posted by Skeptical Ed Was there any consideration ever?
A method and apparatus are provided for delivering lunar generated fluid to Earth orbit from lunar orbit. Transport takes place in an external tank of a shuttle which has been suitably outfitted in Earth orbit for reusable travel between Earth orbit and a lunar orbit. The outfitting of the external tank includes the adding of an engine, an electrical system, a communication system, a guidance system, an aerobraking device, and a plurality of interconnected fluid storage tanks to the hydrogen and oxygen tanks of the external tank. The external tank is then propelled to lunar orbit the first time using Earth based propellant. In lunar orbit, the storage tanks are filled with the lunar generated fluid with the remainder tank volumes filled with lunar generated liquid oxygen and hydrogen which serve as propellants for returning the tank to Earth orbit where the fluid is off-loaded. The remaining lunar generated oxygen and hydrogen is then sufficient to return the external tank to lunar orbit so that a subsequent cycle of fluid delivery is repeated. A space station in a higher Earth orbit is preferably used to outfit the external tank, and a lunar node in lunar orbit is used to store and transfer the fluid and liquid oxygen and hydrogen to the external tank. The lunar generated fluid is preferably 3He.
Originally posted by PhageThe return trip is "deadheaded" (empty).
Originally posted by Skeptical Ed
reply to post by JimOberg
Can you provide a reason as to why shuttles are not used to travel to the moon and carry landers, etc.? They are superior vehicles to what the lunar astronauts used. Was there any consideration ever? Heck, I'm thinking that shuttles would be satisfactory to go to Mars also. What say you?