There doesnt need to be a first shot. They just need to stop shipping the food, and issuing money, and providing decent healthcare.

All tinfoil hat aside, the first shots against civilians will be the "white supremacist right wing kooks". And most will say nothing. Then they will take out some tent city folks. Again, people will not say a word. Then they will kill some rioting teens in some urban area. Still, people will say nothing.

By the time Americans realize that they are living in a 21st Orwellian nightmare, they will be to weak, to scared, and to apathetic to do anything.





Wait....aren't we already there?

Originally posted by Merigold
For anyone to care it would have to be the middle class who are affected - and since the middle class by and far don't want to give up their plasma screen TVs and 3 bed over mortgaged bungalows they will continue to tow whatever it is the PTB throw at them.

They don't need fema camps to control the vast majority, all they need is the threat that we won't be able to shop ourway into enslaving debt- that's enough to keep almost everyone in line.

This person is correct. Almost nobody will even raise one little finger until the shackles are firmly in place. It is hanging onto a hope of your most wonderful trinkets and possessions shall remain yours that you will be enslaved. When is the time to begin to make the difference? That time has already passed. Everybody can rest assured that nobody posting in a forum will be involved. For one, everybody is to fearful to make a clear stand based on their beliefs and morality. Wallowing with the pigs to feed at the trough daily is too appealing. Posting cleanly and clearly about your utter frustration and sense of injustice brings thoughts of the net police. They are gonna get you so they can keep their own big screens and houses.

But what if Americans did raise up in arms? What if we did say "Enough is enough". I think we are the only nation where the people are so heavily armed. It wouldn't be a scenario of shooting at citizens with Molotov cocktails in their hands and sticks, stones, and handkerchief masks. It would be a heavily armed populace being able to successfully remove a government of tyranny like the creators of our constitution planned. Our founding fathers planned for a government out of control because it wasn't a matter of if it would occur, it was a matter of when.


[edit on 30-6-2009 by Apollumi]

Originally posted by Merigold
They don't need fema camps to control the vast majority, all they need is the threat that we won't be able to shop ourway into enslaving debt- that's enough to keep almost everyone in line.

For what it's worth, I thought of Revalations immediately when I read what you wrote here, Merigold. "That none may buy or sell except those who bear the mark of the Beast..." You're of course stating that our consumerism will be used to control us by a simple government/regime here at home. I believe that, should that prove to be true, it will serve as a call of alarm that we truly are in the end times and the Mark is very close to becoming a reality, because at that point the beast will know that the vast majority of the world has raised Earthly interests and persuits above everything else in their lives, above family, above morality, above freedom, and above Faith.

Personally, while the idea of a civil war is intriguing and certainly concerning, the deeper spiritual ramifications of inaction are even more amazing.

Hmmmm, well, at least we are past the BinLaden is going to sneak into your house for your daughters phase.

Cough.

We won't know, 5$ says the government creates a false flag "domestic terrorist" type incident.

The MSM will slant it, people(the sheep) will believe other americans are attacking one another, even though the supposed terrorists will be from some alphabet angency(CIA?).

[edit on 1-7-2009 by LordBaskettIV]

On second thought...maybe not..

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Where will the first shot happen? I'd guess it will besomewhere in the south of America and will happen when the government agents try to take the guns off those skinheaded white supremiscists.

Nah man. It's gonna be Deetroit to El Lay. Nahmean?

It's gonna be like... sucka what?!

B-r-r-r-rak!

B-r-r-r-rAK!!

senerio 1
act 1 scene 1
Pittsburgh, Pa., on September 24 and 25, 2009 - G20 conference
crowd of protestors, someone / someones with a pipe bomb (automatic weapon?) rocks/bottles thrown, explosion?
violence erupts, police react, gov't dogs appear, everyone loaded in busses (even injured/dead). National media coverage on american terrorism, targetted talk radio hosts arrested for inciting to riot
Hi Ho Hi Ho, It's off to camp I go.

senerio 2
act 1 scene 1
Pittsburgh, Pa., on September 24 and 25, 2009 - G20 conference
crowd of protestors held back by costumed protestors. each group gets 20 min. per try. 3 person stand with cover from sun, 3 judges (famous/influential/real people)
1st group doing slave coffle shuffle burdened by debt, taxes, regulations, singing old time hymns - break into (see mel brooks) high kicks & song about being sold down the river.
2nd group 7 lady liberties - torn robes (splash of blood on leg?) singing Kill the Rapists (see weird al on I shot the sherrif) 7 large - ugly men in background - indefinate detention, mandatory swine flu vacinations, gun control ...
3rd group ...
Judges decide on best group / 2 hour or 4 hour segments
video on utube

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I'm usually wrong about these things - BUT

UPDATE


Reacting to the threat of a fourth furlough day/20% pay cut, the Union representing the majority of California's State employees proffers a successful strike vote.

Nearly 200,000 striking employees take to the streets in protest of the on-going state budget crisis. Particularly large crowds of protesters gather in Los Angeles, San Francisco, and the state capital, Sacramento. For nearly a week, the business of the State government grinds to a halt.

The employee's union marchers are eventually joined by city and county employees, who respond to the vast and deep cuts proposed in their jobs as well.

As more and more services are affected, the general population begins to rise up in frustration and anger; at first some of their ire is directed ate the striking employees, but soon all bile is directed toward the ineffectual State legislature and Governor.

Empty State buildings become targets for vandalism, and convenient outlets for mounting public outrage.

Fearing mass insurrection, the Governor calls in the State's National Guard in an attempt to restore order. But the Gaurd, depleted by extended duties overseas proves to be no match for a swelling tide of public anger.

Violence invitably erupts, and in an eye-blink, the insurrection spreads across the nation.

Originally posted by Bhadhidar

Fearing mass insurrection, the Governor calls in the State's National Guard in an attempt to restore order. But the Gaurd, depleted by extended duties overseas proves to be no match for a swelling tide of public anger.

Violence invitably erupts, and in an eye-blink, the insurrection spreads across the nation.

What no one's left to defend the homeland from it's terrorist citizens?