Many of you are actually Neanderthals, page 1
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Topic started on 20-6-2009 @ 12:18 AM by BSndsMPBlk47
This posting fits in many different forums. I picked this one because of my views regarding psychiatry -- the profession whose practitioners ought to be taking there own medicine -- specifically Haloperidol.

There seems to be growing recognition that some of us seem to be so different from most other people it is as it we belong on another planet (www.wrongplanet.net, www.asplanet.info). May I suggest something that makes a bit more sense than we are aliens that somehow look amazingly human -- hybridization with archaic hominids.

Don't assume you are not an Aspergian just because you don't have severe negative symptoms and manage to pass as normal when it counts.

The Neanderthal Theory by Leif Ekblad
www.rdos.net...

Possible ancestral structure in human populations
PLoS Genetics
Vincent Plagno, Jeff D. Wall

dienekes.blogspot.com...
tiny.cc...

Vincent Plagno and Jeff D. Wall made the phosphors on my monitor glow in such a way as to indicate that "...Using sequence data from the Environmental Genome Project, we find strong evidence for ancient admixture in both a European and a West African population (p ~ 10^{-7}), with contributions to the modern gene pool of at least 5%. While Neanderthals form an obvious archaic source population candidate in Europe, there is not yet a clear source population candidate in West Africa."


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reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 12:45 AM by grapesofraft
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Dont be confused. Aliens last week, Neanderthals this week, Flying Monkey people next week, Bigfoot after that, then rotate.

I will put it all in an electronic calender for you so you dont show up dressed as the wrong character one weak and we all have to laught at you.


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 12:47 AM by grapesofraft
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I was just having fun. Really this is a great OP, and makes a heck of a lot more sense than people being Aliens, Indigos, Star Seeds, etc, etc, etc

Plus it may explain their lack of science education. The Neanderthal brain was not quite as complex.


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 01:17 AM by grapesofraft
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I have a theory about how we get 1 in 165 kids with autism. It is called a lack of butt whooping and parents wanting to label their kids with illness because they arent willing to make them behave.

I have seen real autistic kids and some kids that just exhibit certain behaviors that appear autistic because it gives them a warped sense of control.

Not that some people arent Autistic, but Autism has rose in proportion to the decline of physical discipline. Look at the stats.

Maybe them crazy Christians were onto someting when they realized spare the rod spoil the child.

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reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 01:19 AM by space cadet
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I am pretty sure my ex was one. Big head, lots of hair on his face and chest, pretty rude guy too.



reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 02:18 AM by BSndsMPBlk47
Originally posted by grapesofraft
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I have a theory about how we get 1 in 165 kids with autism. It is called a lack of butt whooping and parents wanting to label their kids with illness because they arent willing to make them behave.

I have seen real autistic kids and some kids that just exhibit certain behaviors that appear autistic because it gives them a warped sense of control.

Not that some people arent Autistic, but Autism has rose in proportion to the decline of physical discipline. Look at the stats.

Maybe them crazy Christians were onto someting when they realized spare the rod spoil the child.

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Unlikely, since we should have gotten those rates much, much earlier if it were true. Plus aversives/torture would "straighten them out" if it were true.

This is the crap crackpots like Michael Savage are paid good money by TPTB to spread.

When the environment is filled with assaults on your senses and demands are put on you that you aren't capable of, and then you are ridiculed, invalidated, punished, and can't have a rational dialogue with authorities above you how would you react? Eventually you'll be screaming "enough is enough!!!" when nothing else works.

It is past time to respect their rights and figure out what they are capable of learning and how they are capable of learning it and design appropriate programs and policies around these realities.

Just as there are appropriate (relatively speaking) programs and policies for educating, socializing, and training the neurologically typical, there needs to appropriate systems in place for such large segments of the population. Anything less is discriminatory and fails to respect the rights of minorities which violates the basic principles of republican forms of governance that requires respect for minority rights. Assholes like Michael the Savage and 60 Minutes Andy Loony don't understand this.

Indeed, considering the mistreatment of those on the autistic spectrum, it is a wonder why they aren't more --much, much, much more --resistant and violent, not less.

One of the good things about the decline in disciple is that it is probably a factor in the push for recognition of the problem. While the rod is being spared raising neurotypicals, eventually many neuroatypicals still end up subjected to conditions Obama won't subject terrorists to -- the process / downward spiral just takes a little longer.


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 02:52 AM by BSndsMPBlk47
Indeed if anything, the problem is that those on the Autistic spectrum need to be like Jews in 1920s Germany and Gays in America in the '90s and get in the haters faces. If Michael the Savage ended up with his jaw wired shut for his asinine comments maybe that would send a message. It is time "conservative" haters who have allowed the majority to oppress minorites in contradiction of the principles of the republican form of governance and been the worst violators of the Constitution started having much needed cups of shut the f--- up. They need to think before saying the stupid things they usually do.

And yes, all that stuff about socialism being unconstitutional is crap. Corporations are state chartered bureaucracies -- in other words they are governments. Corporations have no rights. They are not persons. Only domestic enemies would argue otherwise. It is time to go back to the days when they were required to serve the public interest (before 1886).

The Tenth Amendment is not a license to violate the principles of the republican form of governance. When states disregard these principles the 10th Amendment rights are forfeited. It becomes the obligation of the federal government to step in under Article IV Section 4: "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion." Fascist/Corporatist domestic enemies have taken over. Unfortunately, it looks like they own Obama as well.

I think I'll reevaluate my views on disproportionate response now.


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 03:53 AM by Kandinsky
reply to post by Spartannic

I tend to agree with you here...we don't have enough evidence to really have an understanding of the wider population of Neanderthals. The evidence we do have doesn't support interbreeding.

Physically, the sample we do have, shows similarities that fall within the parameters of our own species differences. Skulls are larger than average human skulls, but some human skulls will be on the outer edges of the bell curve. Some Neanderthal bones indicate they were shorter and stockier than us...again theses features are within the bell curve of human anatomy.

Intelligence? They had a marginally larger brain capacity if that means anything. More significantly, they used tools specific to Neanderthals. This indicates that they had a comparable intelligence to us.


With all the glaciers melting down over the world maybe soon we will have some decent DNA to study and eventually maybe even clone some of our ancestors for study...


There already is decent DNA to study...the Neanderthal genome is over 60% mapped ( Neanderthals 'distinct from us' ). We could do with more samples and it'll be good to see what shrinking glaciers will reveal. Otzi the Iceman was an information gold mine


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 11:52 AM by mopusvindictus
OP,

Great thread the link to the Guy who describes Autism as a Neanderthal behavior is 100% correct.

I have a buddy who works for me, who was diagnosed ADHD 15 years ago, no one ever understood him his step father beat the piss out of him... because like another really, really ignorant poster he thought the poor guy was just not listening as a teenager... at the time Autism was so little known that he was diagnosed ADHD but really he had something else going on.

I had made the leap to that he was of Neanderthal genes over a year ago... he completely shows it in appearance (most don't) so I had the luck to visually be able to see this...

Stocky, covered in hair, heavy set lower body, exceptionally strong thick legs and bones (almost look like a giant baby) larger head... different senses, can't look you in the eye... etc, etc

and... the poor guy has suffered his whole life

he can hardly hold a job because people don't take well to has lack of social cuing...

and I've been taking care of the guys all year, something that causes me allot of difficulty because even his own mother thinks that he does it on purpose...lazy etc...

But THIS is 100% correct, i'm sure it rings like a Bell, this is real... even down to the sexual habits and differences

There is nothing to actually doubt here, it's apparent at a glance.... and there was NO WAY we didn't mix with Neanderthal Females... some people will sleep with Goats let alone a side species of man, we definitely bred the in...

They say Autism is new, I'd say thanks to inbreeding... the positive gene traits are re emerging

These people get treated like garbage too... and it's just another genuine clue as to who we are, it's a tragedy.


reply posted on 20-6-2009 @ 11:57 AM by mopusvindictus
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You obviously hit the nail on the head in terms of how some of these traits could survive.

But I am willing to go a step further and say the difficulty of some of these people in terms of mating has preserved a large number of these traits, in the end, there are some who only were able to socially mate with others who shared the traits effectively... so you do actually see some minor preservation to this day as a result in more ways than you would think possible...

Judging from my buddy, i'd say it's entirely possible that... some of them fail to reproduce with anybody generation after generation except others that share these traits.
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