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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
reply to post by clay2 baraka
[cut by poster]
Back on point; the propaganda is heating up on both sides and all it takes is a very slight change of wording to make a threat appear to be far more than it is. There are many powerful people out there that are looking for any opportunity to inflame this situation to meet their political ends.
Very dangerous. .
[edit on 6/15/2009 by clay2 baraka]
How are you going to negotiate with people that don't hold up their end of the bargain? How are you going to negotiate when they wont meet with you? How do you get food to the people that are starving when lil Kim doesn't want them to have it?
Originally posted by stevcolx
I don't get all this bullpoo. Was America threatened when it did all it's Nuclear Weapon Testing? Was France threatened when it did it's testing? And the many other countries for theirs? NO!!!
Why in the hell is America threatening NK for testing out their capabilties for Nuclear Weapon construction when America is the biggest threat in the world for a Nuclear War?
Ok I guess the answer is because they think they run the world. NOT!!
Originally posted by stevcolx
Thing is how did all this start? Did NK invade anyone? Did they threaten anyone while the were testing their atomic power? (Not weapons)
Are NK allowed to have a Nuclear weapon arsenal to defend themselves? Or is it only US and their allies that are allowed?
U see I'm a bit mesmerised by the US's involvement in all this. They seem to have a lot of fingers in other people's pies. And not for the good of the people of the world.
See what I'm getting at?
Originally posted by FlyingCupPlate
You should really STFU in my opinion and stop spreading bull sh|t around the internet.
You haven't been to North Korea, you never met one. So how the hell would you know what is in there silo's?
Typical internet know it all and politician in one.
Originally posted by mopusvindictus
reply to post by stevcolx
We do, way too much so... too many places, too much to handle effectively...
The real reason we are there, is Japan
An arrangement that goes back 2/3 of a century now by which we defend them...
If Japan took a Nuke, right now or SK the world economy would be at game over instantly...
Lot of leverage the lil Kim actually has at the moment
It's high time Japan be allowed to re-arm
It is unfair to the Japanese and their safety and we can no longer handle the job as well as we should too many enemies...
You can blame the US for a lot of things...but the situation with North Korea is not one of them...
But to say that the US created and is encouraging the situation with North Korea is naive at best.
It is easy to see how this situation in North Korea is an engineered crisis much like Iraq was.
If the Clinton administration hadn’t facilitated a deal to provide them with modern nuclear technology in the mid-1990s, it is likely that the North Koreans would still be trying to figure out how to build nuclear weapons.
The fact that Bill Clinton’s wife and now U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is condemning North Korea due to their nuclear weapons tests and continued pursuit of nuclear weapons is an absolute joke considering her husband helped them along in the process by giving them access to modern nuclear technology.
This is just another scenario showing how the U.S. creates artificial crises as part of the problem – reaction – solution paradigm that is used over and over again to push us closer to world government.
Originally posted by silo13
Sure I can blame them. From day one.
Now who sounds naive?
PRESIDENT Bill Clinton hailed the nuclear agreement signed in Geneva with North Korea yesterday as 'a good deal for the United States'. Sceptics, however, saw the deal as having been done on North Korean terms.
Under the terms of the deal, North Korea will freeze its nuclear programme, thought to be aimed at developing nuclear weapons, and dismantle its existing reactors, which produce high quantities of weapons-grade plutonium.
In return Pyongyang will receive modern light-water reactors, whose dollars 4bn ( pounds 2.7bn) cost will be borne mainly by South Korea and Japan.
These reactors will be reliant on imported fuel, and will produce far less plutonium. Until they come into service in about 2003, the international community will pay for North Korea's oil imports, with the US contributing dollars 5m for next year's bill.
Donald Rumsfeld who visited Saddam Hussein in 1983 as part of the Reagan administration’s special envoy to the Middle East played a key role in helping provide chemical weapons to Iraq. These weapons provided to Iraq by the U.S. would be used against the Iranians during the Iran-Iraq war as well as against their own domestic population. The use of chemical weapons by Hussein was one of the reasons the Bush 41 and Bush 43 administrations used as an excuse to engage in military operations against Iraq. This is despite the fact that the U.S. provided the chemical weapons to Iraq to begin with.
Rumsfeld was also linked to the North Korean nuclear agreement. Rumsfeld sat on the board of ASEA Brown Boveri or ABB the Swiss Engineering firm that was contracted by the U.S. to provide the two nuclear reactors to the North Koreans from 1990 – 2001. The deal would go through in 2000 while Rumsfeld was still sitting on the company’s board.