UK: Who's Watching You?, page 1

There is a great little thing about the UK surveillance society at the moment on TV and i wanted to rbing it to the attention of others on ATS.

Episode 1


Episode 2


Episode 3 comes soon.


From this program i could bring up a great deal of examples that concern me, however i will bring up just one.

The police have a system that photographs number plates of cars and can actually be programmed to recognise certain numbers. This system is called ANPR. When driving down a motorway, if you are "tagged" then the police system will be alerted to you, that you need watching.

ANPR (Automatic Number Plate Recognition)

A father and daughter were protesting at a factory that makes the equipment that drops bombs. These have been used in Iraq. The protest was peaceful and yet a marker was placed on their vehicle so that it would show up on the ANPR. Two police cars followed them, one went in front, another behind and bought them to a stop. They were threatened under the terrorist act and if they didn't answer all questions they would be arrested.

Later on they were stopped in London, by an anti terror part of the police. Their justification was that they are associated with an organisation that has caused some direct action attempts. Neither of these peopel have ever been involved in direct action. They have not linked them in any of this and yet they are still marked.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

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I watched the first two parts just now....(for the last couple of hours) and it's very good actually.
Will catch the 3rd part on the Iplayer soon...

But yes...that father and daughter one was bad.

The whole thing is worrying.... "bin-spinning" and paying for "private" surveillance and so on...monitoring employees every move and such.
It will soon go beyond "Orwellian" if it hasn't already.

Crazy stuff indeed.

[edit on 8/6/09 by blupblup]

reply to post by NoHopeForSome

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Pathetic, you don't get it do you ?!!

You have everything to hide, your bloody privacy.

I'll refrain from ranting as it gets tiresome. Just watch this video and you'll understand how tracking will infringe your everyday existence...

reply to post by _Phoenix_

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What? Is that against the law, oops.

Originally posted by PrisonerOfSociety
reply to post by _Phoenix_

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What? Is that against the law, oops.

Well if they are not doing anything wrong, then they got nothing to hide right? then I'm sure they will invite me in, that's the logic right?

[edit on 8-6-2009 by _Phoenix_]

Originally posted by NoHopeForSome
What the big deal. Unless your doing something wrong, how is this going to impact your day to day life. I know its an invasion of privacy and a breach on basic human rights, but what is the issue here?

All they will end up with is 10 years worth of fights with girlfriends and internet visits to freakyporn.com. How is this going to make things any different to anybody.

To this i quote you an old thread of mine.


Nothing To Hide? CCTV In Your Home Then!

The isea you would so happily give up your privacy and human rights scares me. These are basic principles. Donlt you get that once you give up these things then other freedoms and rights are easier to get rid of?

Look the basics should always be maintained, those of freedom, rights and dignity.

[edit on 8-6-2009 by ImaginaryReality1984]

My brother had the same legal letter (as described in one of OP links) a few weeks ago for downloading the pinball game.

Virgin have crossed the line IMHO, they just dish out your IP details to any bottom feeding lawyers.

It seems The Carphone Warehouse are taking a stance against BS copyright legislation!!

"If people want to share content they will find another way to do it," he added. "It is more about education and allowing people to get content easily and cheaply that will make a difference. This idea that it is all peer to peer [P2P] and somehow the ISPs can just stop it is very naive."

Source

[edit on 8-6-2009 by PrisonerOfSociety]

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

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They claim that even with a wireless router, you as the IP owner, are responsible for all activity.

It's all BS, i agree. There's no way they can prove downloads, other than confiscating your machine and running diagnostic software to detect content, even after it's been deleted. They won't ever go the whole hog and take someone to court, as they'd fall on their backsides with lack of proof. You just claim a ghost IP/proxy was used to download stuff.

Regarding ANRP used by the police, well you could always use a white registration plate back colour. Their machines can't make out your reg number and you'd get a written warning to change it to yellow, so you can get away with it once.

Police also put stickers on cars in pub car parks they find @10pm-ish. So when they roam the streets after kick-out, it's easier for them to pull cars with these stickers.

Again, police are just 10% law-enforcement, 90% revenue generators.

Episode 3

It was a good episode.

reply to post by ImaginaryReality1984

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Cool...

I thoroughly enjoyed that trilogy.

Cheers for the links.

Scary and fascinating and really interesting.

reply to post by blupblup

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Happy to add the the big cook pot of knowledge on ATS


These episodes only remain for around a week so watch them you can guys.

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