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Restaurant owners Igor Rakuz, left, who owns GRO Cafe, and Oliver Outerbridge, who owns Bonobo, today kicked off a petition campaign to force a referendum in the towns served by the Portland Water District that would ask voters if they want to remove fluoride from the water system. The grassroots group they're heading is called Fluoride Leave Our Water, or FLOW.
Oliver cited the link between fluoride in drinking water and diseases such as cancer and thyroid problems.
"It's a form of mass medication," he said. "We do not feel mass medication is constitutional or ethical."
He added "fluoride only works topically, not when you ingest it."
I appreciate your concern in our drinking water. i will try to help you understand why we put fluoride into the City of Upper Sandusky Drinking water. Ohio Revised code 6109.20 states that a water system need to fluoridate there drinking water. This has been in effect since 1971. basically we are required by OEPA to comply with this ORC.
We have a natural fluoride of 0.35 MG/l. Some communities have much higher natural levels that us. we are a surface water system meaning that we receive our water from a lake,stream or reservoir. these systems normally have lower natural levels. Ground water (wells) seem to have higher levels. we add Fluorosilicic Acid to raise the fluoride level the acceptable range of 0.80 to 1.30 MG/l.
i have attached that section of the ORC and a few other informational sheet. i have also attached a copy of our CCR that will show you the levels of fluoride and other contaminates that are in the water.
If you have any further questions please do not hesitate to contact me a the phone number below.
City Of XXXX
Hydrogen fluoride ( HF, CAS No 7664-39-3) is a colourless, pungent liquid or gas with a boiling point of 19.5 oC. It is highly soluble in water in which it forms hydrofluoric acid.
Sodium fluoride ( NaF, CAS No 7681-49-4) is a colourless to white solid that is moderately
soluble in water.
Fluorosilicic acid (H2SiF6 CAS No 16961-83-4) which is also known as hexafluorosilicic acid is a
colourless solid that is highly soluble in water.
Inorganic fluorine compounds are used in industry for a wide range of purposes. They are used in aluminium production and as a flux in the steel and glass fibre industries. They can also be released to the environment during the production of phosphate fertilizers (which contain an
average of 3.8% fluorine), bricks, tiles, and ceramics. Fluorosilicic acid, sodium hexafluorosilicate and sodium fluoride are used in municipal water fluoridation schemes (1, IPCS 2002).
Happy to send the stickers, Brian.......thanks for the request! The stickers are simply to raise awareness about the issue with the public.
If you REALLY want to take the clear and patient steps to get this
out of your water you need to call Jeff Green at XXX XXX-XXXX to get
the details. Long story short, it's about the product NOT the
science. By the way, it most certainly is not federally mandated!
proof: www.Keepers-of-the-Well.org... then click Fluoridation
On-Point and scroll down to item #3.
"(11) No national primary drinking water regulation may require the addition of any substance for preventive health care purposes unrelated to contamination of drinking water."
"Instant tea, one of the most popular drinks in the United States, may be a source of harmful levels of fluoride... The researchers found that some regular strength preparations contain as much as 6.5 parts per million (ppm) of fluoride, well over the 4 ppm maximum allowed in drinking water by the Environmental Protection Agency." - "Potentially harmful fluoride levels found in some instant tea'', Washington University School of Medicine, January 25, 2005.
"The average fluoride concentration of infusions prepared from decaffeinated (green & black) tea in this study is 3.19 ppm and ranged from 1.01 to 5.20. This is unexpectedly higher than caffeinated tea and such a difference is statistically significant. If decaffeinated tea were prepared with optimally fluoridated water, the fluoride content would be increased by 1 ppm and would reach an average of 4.19 ppm." - Chan JT, Koh SH. (1996). Fluoride content in caffeinated, decaffeinated and herbal teas. Caries Research 30:88-92.
"Teflon-lined cookware may contribute to the fluoride ingested by humans. Full and Parkins boiled fluoridated water at a moderate rate until a one-third or one-half reduction in volume was attained, then determined the fluoride content of the residual water... In Teflon-coated ware, the concentration of fluoride ion increased to nearly 3 ppm. This result requires confirmation; but, if it is correct, then the release of fluoride into foods during cooking in plastic-coated wares requires investigation." - Marier J, Rose D. (1977). Environmental Fluoride. National Research Council of Canada. Associate Committe on Scientific Criteria for Environmental Quality. NRCC No. 16081.
Originally posted by wiredamerican
Fluoride is a drug, FACT.
Fluoride is a poison FACT.
Fluoride is hazardous waste FACT.
My God Man, It is about as safe as mixing antifreeze in your Iced Tea !!
2 plus 2 equals 4 and 4 is no fluoride. It is easy like math...
I am safe with well water and not brushing my teeth so often but don't tell anyone I said that.
Good luck, and spread the fluoride facts as much as you can, because we do care!!!!!
Thanks for keeping me in the loop about the June 8, 2009 e-mail you received from Mr. xxxx xxxxxx concerning fluoridation of xxxxx water system. It is unfortunate that misinformation still abounds about the benefits and safety of fluoridation. The world wide web contains many sites that base claims of harm from fluoride on junk science, innuendo and inaccurate or incomplete analysis of the research. (this is me: typical spin here by giving the bad names like junk science)
As you know, xxxxx is one of 213 public water systems that adjust the fluoride content to 0.8 – 1.3 mg/L or parts per million (PPM) to achieve reductions in tooth decay in a cost-effective, equitable manner. Ninety-two percent of Ohioans served by public water systems are enjoying the benefits of this proven public health measure. When I respond to queries about fluoridation, I often refer folks to the American Dental Association (www.ada.org... ) and the Centers for Disease Control (www.cdc.gov... ). These excellent websites contain information that is based on credible research published in peer-reviewed journals. (me again, I responded also pointing out that certain organizations once said that chemicals like DDT weren't harmful to people or the environment, yup, must believe the organizations that state these things because they aren't junk science)
Mr. xxxxx is concerned about fluorosis. Common causes of fluorosis are ingestion of higher-than-optimal fluoride water as well as inadvertent ingestion of topical fluorides during the tooth developing years (birth to age 9). Research is ongoing to determine why mild and mild-moderate fluorosis has increased in the last few decades. Improper prescription practices, as well as swallowing fluoride rinses and fluoridated toothpastes are major reasons for concern. Mr. xxxxx should check out this link: (www.cdc.gov... ) to more fully understand this complex issue. (note how she says that research is ongoing about why fluorosis has increased over the last few decades [few being more than 2!])
If a person ingests optimally fluoridated water and there is careful monitoring of total fluoride intake by very young children, fluorosis should not be a concern. Certainly, severe fluorosis—which includes brown stains and pitted enamel—is not common in the United States. (me again, and yet research is ongoing to what THEY call mild fluorosis) It is seen in some countries where natural fluoride content in public water systems is well above 2.0 mg/L or parts per million. It would be interesting to know whether Mr. xxxxx son swallowed a lot of fluoridated toothpaste as a toddler (no, kept him away from toothpaste, brushed his teeth with fluoride free pastes), whether fluoride supplements were prescribed unnecessarily or inaccurately (nope), and whether natural fluoride levels in the communities where he lived were tested for fluoride content (an excuse to put the blame elsewhere, because where we lived when he was born fluoridated their water supply). The Ohio EPA and the U.S. EPA have set secondary and primary MCL’s (maximum contaminant levels) for public water systems in order to protect consumers of community water supplies.
With more than 60 years of research and practical experience, the overwhelming weight of credible scientific evidence has consistently indicated that fluoridation of community water supplies is safe. CDC has proclaimed community water fluoridation (along with vaccinations and infectious disease control) as one of 10 great public health achievements of the 20th century. Please remind Mr. xxxx that more than 125 national and international health, service and professional organizations recognize the public health benefits of community water fluoridation for preventing tooth decay. The Bureau of Oral Health Services website had additional information on the status of fluoridation in Ohio (www.odh.ohio.gov... ).
Originally posted by adrenochrome
in regards to the Lafayette, LA scenario, here's an article i just came across:
"Fluoridation debate revived"
Fluoridating public drinking water is a controversial and expensive undertaking.
Just the equipment to ready Lafayette Utilities System for fluoridation will cost $654,200. It will cost another $530,000 a year to operate the system once fluoridation is added, Don Broussard, water operations manager, said.
"$654,200" to install it, and "$530,000" annually to maintain it?!!
so they're going to spend over a million dollars to start fluoridation, but couldn't that amount of money be spent more wisely on teaching proper dental hygiene maintenance?! how much does a visit to the dentist cost these days anyway? it seems like they could fix everyone's teeth in the entire city for that amount of money!
is it just me, or is this getting even more ridiculous?! i mean, i knew water fluoridation costs a lot, but not this much!!
also, for those interested, here's another great article:
"Motherhood, Apple Pie and Fluoridation: A critical evaluation of fluoridation practices in Canada"