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The 1984 issue of Clinical Toxicology of Commercial Products lists fluoride as more poisonous than lead and just slightly less poisonous than arsenic. It has been used as a pesticide for mice, rats and other small pests. A 10# infant could be killed by 1/100 of an ounce and a 100# adult could be killed by 1/10 of an ounce of fluoride. The Akron Regional Poison Center indicates that a 7 ounce tube of toothpaste contains 199 mg. of fluoride, more than enough to kill a 25# child. Even Procter & Gamble, the maker of Crest, acknowledges that this is true "theoretically, at least." There are documented deaths of infants and children caused by "normal dosage" of fluoride tablets or treatments.
In a number of small villages in Sicily, Turkey and India there is naturally occurring fluoride in the water ranging from 0.7 to 5.4 ppm. Here the villagers and their livestock are chronically ill, while neighboring villages with no fluoride have no such illnesses. Premature aging is the overall effect. Children have brown decaying teeth; young adults often have none. Young men are bent over and crippled with pain in their joints and hips. Their skin is wrinkled and they look 60 at age 30 to 40. There is premature hardening of the arteries, loss of appetite & sex drive by age 30. The rate of stillborn miscarriages by 4 months is extremely high.
Originally posted by argentus
Excellent info you've compiled here. All our water is captured rainwater, so we have much less of the fluoride issue.
we came to much the same conclusion two years ago, and since have brushed out teeth with baking soda. Two months ago, we went to our nation's capital, and finally found some fluoride-free toothpaste. Mon, that tastes MUCH better than the bitter saltiness of sodium bicarbonate.
I quit smoking last October, and that helped. My teeth were always kinda yellowish until we quit with the toothpaste. M'Bride and I had tried Crest whitestrips, and that helped somewhat, but seemed very short-term.
Really good thread. I think there's more to this fluoride issue that we know. It's been used in water for a very long time, and when I was a kid, I took it for granted that it was something there for our benefit. That was almost 40 years ago.
As with the new study mentioned above (1), a 2002 study by a research team in Sri Lanka, reported:
"caries prevalence and the mean caries experience were significantly higher in children with (dental fluorosis) than in those without" (7).
Similarly, a 1997 study from a team in Sudan reported:
"analyses based on children in the 2.5 ppm area alone, showed significantly higher DMFT (Decayed, Missing, and Filled Teeth) by increased severity of dental fluorosis" (8).
Earlier, a team from Israel ˆ in two separate papers looking at two separate age groups (9, 10) - reported:
"A statistically significant positive association was found between caries prevalence and fluorosis; the more caries experienced, the more severe the fluorosis level" (10).
Earlier yet, Dr. Arvid Carlsson (a recent winner of the Nobel Prize in Medicine) reported on findings from Sweden which showed:
" more severe degrees of enamel fluorosis are associated with an abnormally high incidence of caries... There is thus no doubt that a high degree of enamel fluorosis causes an increased tendency to caries" (14).
In addition to these findings, a series of recent papers have also reported that tooth decay rates may actually increase as the fluoride level in the water increases (15-18). For example:
In 2002, a research team in Tanzania reported:
" subjects in the high-F (fluoride) and urban Arusha municipality were at a significantly higher risk of dental caries than children in the low-F (fluoride) areas" (15).
In 2001, a research team in South Africa reported:
"Significantly (P < 0.01) more children had decayed teeth in the high F (fluoride) area than in the other two areas. The results suggest a positive association between high F levels in the drinking water and dental caries" (16).
And perhaps most comprehensively, a research team in India (summarizing 30 years of observation) reported:
"Our findings indicate that dental caries was caused by high fluoride and low dietary calcium intakes, separately and through their interactions. Dental caries was most severe and complex in calcium-deficient children exposed to high intakes of endemic fluoride in drinking water" (17).
The fluoride added to water supplies is an industrial waste byproduct: While fluoride toothpaste is pharmaceutical grade (Sodium Fluoride) & applied directly to teeth, the kind used in water supplies is industrial grade fluoride called Hydrofluosilicic Acid which contains harmful contaminants such as arsenic, barium, cadmium, lead and mercury. It is a byproduct from the phosphate fertilizer industry. Water fluoridation is a cheap way for industry to get rid of their waste and consumers pay the price.
Originally posted by gYvMessanger
Ive given you a flag and a star, I'm going to try this, I hope it is true, I will report back.
Originally posted by argentus
p.s. I always have a couple of mini-jars of oil of clove in our emergency goods. I had a filling come out while getting my teeth cleaned a week ago. They said I'd need a crown, and I agree, but temporarily they filled it with some sort of amalgam, and they called it "medicated". yah. I said, "that smells and tastes like oil of clove". Kindly dentist said, "you're very astute...... that's exactly what it is." So, well......... great, but now I taste cinnamon all day long. ALL day long. I'd rather have tooth sensitivity.
Anyway, just wanted to mention oil of clove for emergency kits. Temporarily knocks out all manner of dental pain.