Originally posted by benpadiah
I'll make you a deal, "Mr. Mask." Find me one quote by LaVey or Crowley in the POD10.pdf and I will stop posting on ATS.
Do a simple search of the words "Benpadiah, Crowley, POD".
Count the returned pages.
Find me one reference I make to any of Crowley's ideas, or any of the ideas of Anton Lavey, anywhere in the POD.
Are you asking me to return to your nonsensical collection of rambling thoughts and incoherent speculations on magic? Sorry...you won't be getting a
download from me.
It also isn't my goal to stop you from using ATS. My goal is for YOU to stop USING ATS as a sales outlet for your crap. Post here all you
like...continue to do so ONLY to promote your cult and self-made-self-published-ebook, and we have a a problem.
I do not "rip off" Aleister Crowley,
Yes...yes you do.
and the POD definitely has nothing in common with the COS.
Oh, I am sure you have "nothing" to do with the CoS, we both know they would forcefully remove you while mocking your elaborate collection of
Nonetheless, you still have stolen from them.
I don't know where you get these ideas, but all I can do is insistently encourage you to read what I have written before criticising its content.
Before you didn't "understand" where I was coming from, as if it was "insane" for me to have these views on you. Then I pointed out the
"insanity" of NOT knowing where I am coming from, and you instantly switched to "understanding my side of this".
I assume, you are playing "stupid" again and trying to act "flabbergasted" that your work has been called "akin to Crowley". Where your own
posts here have mentioned Crowley twice, and the internet has a few pages doing so as well.
I am not the first to call you a Crowley rip off, or see the likeness between you and him (mind you, he was original and you are just sucking off the
work of others who came before you).
I see where you are coming from, and what you are getting at, Mr. Mask. I disapprove of your methods, not your motives.
Never mistake me for a person who gives a damn what a liar/scam-artist approves or disapproves of. You are selling "lies and fantastical
impossibilities" and painting them as fact and worthy of attention.
We both know what caliber of "mind" would gravitate towards your rubbish.
We both know you are here seeking nothing but zealots and idiots to buy into your little fantasy world created ONLY to support you...The Pope of
Seriously...are you above the age of 12? If not, I forgive you for this little game of make believe.
You are basically accusing me of something new, and equally false, in each new post.
Wrong again...I have been very consistent in saying-
"You are a rip off con artist using this website for gullible folks, knowing full well how many flock here daily. You are a con-man...and a horrible
one at that, seeing as your scams could only "net" you "one type of sucker"...the gullible kind.
I have contacted the moderators in this regard,
As have I, some time ago.
just to make sure that my side is represented fairly in the event your verbal abuse carries more clout at "denying ignorance" than my own status as
just a n00b poster here.
One of this site's main goals is to dismantle and deny hoaxes, fakes, scammers and charlatans.
I am doing that right now. This is not "abuse". This is not "trolling". This is a "rational man" confronting a "possible danger to people" who
seems lost within (or applied to) a falsehood.
It is always "your kind" (the self-credited guru types) that call out "abuse" as soon as their "information" is judged as "silly" or
If I came here posting that "my dog's butt is a talking portal to space-ship land", would you call the people accosting that idea "abusive"?
I say PEACE because I believe in the power of saying it, and the good of spreading that message.
Sure you do. Peacful brainwashing is always easier. No "smart" huckster goes around punching people to convert them.
Therefore, Mr. Mask, peace. Let us talk us calmly and to the point, please.
You seem to think I am not calm? Are you projecting your present uneasy state onto me? I am very calm, and confident that you will soon "stop" using
ATS to sell your wares. I am also, assured that I am right in my views on you and your little guild of seven men claiming they are the "new world
order of Atlantis".
I am asking you again: PEACE. - Jon
And I am TELLING you right to your cyber face...you are a scammer as far as any untrained eye can tell. Add to that my personal "research and
understanding" of cults, and my eye becomes less "untrained" and more "aware" to this type of crap.
You want to change my views?
Go work on writing an ebook that explains how your "space-reptilian, NWO,Casey, Crowley,magic,CoS, Self-titled-Pope ideas are somehow valid and not
just made-up BS to swindle idiots.
Look...you may live somewhere where you can get away about talking about this stuff at a party, and not be confronted. But this is ATS, the place to
deny ignorance and roar in the face of fraud.
I am doing that here.
I do not "add" foes heres...If I did, you would be at the top of that list.
Further more, stop acting like your books were published. They were not. You PAID money to have them printed "if someone buys one".
The books don't even technically exist until some "sucker" goes and buys one.
You laughed before pointing out the book was "free".
Funny, I saw a page selling all your books. I also did a search on how many have sold.
Hows it feel to know that you have sold ALMOST "none of these books"?
Does it make you want to find a website with a cliental of "loose minded" types that you can begin advertising to?
I bet it does.
Your cult is not registered or real. You cult has not operated as a functional entity (unless you call you and 6 friends an operation).
Like I said...as a co-creator of a secret society and as a welcomed visitor within many more, it is easy to see your amateur buisness for what it
I meet many people like you very often. Some go to jail, some just go away, while others continue to follow their self-made church-of-silliness (often
growing more and more dangerous as their fantasy realm collapses over time).
And THAT is the dangerous part here.
What do YOU and your six friends become after this fantasy endeavor fails to pan out?
Yeah...like I said...as long as you use ATS as a spring board to launch your "amateur gentlemen's club" and gain followers/patrons, you will be
seeing Mr Mask around.
Go buy a forum...go find a Church to preach in...hold festivals and gatherings.
I know I do....hence why every post I make is not about the "club" I belong to with all my body and heart.
Get some dignity and stop panhandling to the ATS community.
There is no recruiting or promoting allowed here. That is the rule. One I have to follow and so do you.
You think I wouldn't enjoy making a thread about the club I belong to? But no, I follow the rules I agreed to when joining this site.
No promoting, no selling, no gathering of zealots.
Not here buddy.
[edit on 9-2-2010 by Mr Mask]