Rachel Maddow trashes Obama for shredding Constitution! Must watch!, page 1
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Topic started on 22-5-2009 @ 11:52 PM by David9176
First of all....


The oath of office of the President of the United States is an oath or affirmation required by the United States Constitution before the President begins the execution of the office. The wording is specified in Article Two, Section One, Clause Eight: "I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

en.wikipedia.org...


I've gotta say...I'm surprised to see this. I'm starting to like this woman a bit. She always gives Ron Paul, of whom I'm a big supporter, the utmost respect when on her show.

I think Ron Paul is starting to rub off on her some.

As she states in this clip...Obama is stating that he'll keep people in detention because they MIGHT commit crimes in the future.

Watch this! This is on MSNBC...the Obama network to boot!

Kudos to Rachel for looking out for the Constitution on this one!!
Watch as Obama declares that he can HOLD SOMEONE INDEFINITELY WITHOUT TRIAL! I didn't see this speech when it aired...how did this get by everyone? This is the first I've heard of this.


Obama is NOT change...no matter how much you want it.


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reply posted on 22-5-2009 @ 11:55 PM by David9176
reply to post by Frankidealist35



She hammers him pretty good in this one and show's his blatant hypocrisy in the entire matter of how he would go about holding detainees.

Crazy.



reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 12:33 AM by David9176
reply to post by rapinbatsisaltherage



I agree. This is the first I've heard on this though. What worries me even more is all the "domestic terrorist" stuff flying around lately.

Is it possible for them to use this on American citizens and completely trounce on pretty much all of their legal rights?


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 12:44 AM by David9176
reply to post by Amaterasu



Well what's even more crazy is that one of Obama's economic advisors is the CEO of GE...which owns NBC and MSNBC which explains the usual railing for Obama because of GE's green agenda.

Amazing really and i'm not quite sure what to make of it....but I"m glad she did this piece regardless.



reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 12:45 AM by rapinbatsisaltherage
Originally posted by David9176
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post by rapinbatsisaltherage



I agree. This is the first I've heard on this though. What worries me even more is all the "domestic terrorist" stuff flying around lately.

Is it possible for them to use this on American citizens and completely trounce on pretty much all of their legal rights?



Yes and homegrown terrorist is being said a lot as well.

It's definitely possible. The Patriot Act trumps the Bill of Rights, but they got away with that. This time we need to really step up and watch them like hawks. Even if there is a planned, homegrown terrorist attack, we can not allow them to get away with preventive detention.


reply posted on 23-5-2009 @ 01:54 AM by rapinbatsisaltherage
reply to post by defcon5



Since when is it illegal to hold people who have not committed a crime yet, but are plotting to commit a crime?

But preventive detention requires no evidence that you were intending to commit a crime.

Preventive detention concerns imprisonment either without justification (the prisoner is not told the grounds for the arrest) or waiting for trial.

In most democracies, no one can be arrested without being told the grounds for such an arrest, except under rare and special circumstances (usually anti-terrorism legislation). An arrested citizen has to be brought before the nearest magistrate within a certain amount of time. The arrested person has the right to defend himself by a lawyer of his choice. Depending on the laws, this lawyer can be called for as soon as the detention starts, or sometimes days or weeks later.

However, there is an exception to this general provision. Under preventive detention, the government can imprison a person for some time. It means that if the government feels that a person being at liberty can be a threat to the law and order or the unity and integrity of the nation, it can detain or arrest that person to prevent him from doing this possible harm.

(Emphasis Mine)
en.wikipedia.org...



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