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reply posted on 20-5-2009 @ 02:42 PM by karl 12
reply to post by WWu777



WWu777 thanks for the reply -that section does make some mighty fine points about wilfull ignorance and how pseudoscience may be more 'dogmatic' than 'pragmatic'.

Heres a handy link of some of the techniques employed:
www.bibleufo.com...
Cheers.



reply posted on 20-5-2009 @ 03:01 PM by jkrog08
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Good post Karl, here is a recent great thread by Indigo_Child on the topic of "Pseudoskepticism":Debunking Pseudoskepticism



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reply posted on 20-5-2009 @ 05:25 PM by kidflash2008
reply to post by karl 12



Thank you for that site. I think there are problems with both sides of the debate when it comes to picking and choosing what evidence to use.

BTW, Seth Shostak will be on tonight's Colbert Report.


reply posted on 20-5-2009 @ 05:28 PM by jkrog08
reply to post by kidflash2008



Thanks for that bit of information, I will watch it. Although I really don't like Shostak I will still see what the doctor has to say.


reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 12:09 PM by WWu777
Here's some convincing videos to check out that I found in SCEPCOP's video list.

Pam Reynolds' NDE during flat brainline!



A Skeptic forced to turn believer about reincarnation!



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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 01:43 PM by karl 12
reply to post by WWu777



WWu -thats a great post and the first link does makes some very important distinctions between true open minded scepticism and close minded ignorant cynicism:


True skeptics / open-minded skeptics


*Has honest doubt and questions all beliefs, including their own

*Seeks the truth, considers it the highest aim

*Seeks open inquiry and investigation of both sides

*Is nonjudgmental, doesn't jump to rash conclusions

*Weighs evidence on all sides

*Asks exploratory questions about new things to try to understand them

*Acknowledges valid convincing evidence

*Possesses solid sharp common sense

*Is able to adapt and update their paradigms to new evidence







Pseudo-skeptics / closed-minded skeptics
*Automatically dismisses and denies all claims that contradict materialism and orthodoxy

*Is not interested in truth, evidence or facts, only in defending orthodoxy and the status quo

*Ignores anything that doesn't fit their a priori beliefs and assumptions

*Scoffs and ridicules their targets instead of providing solid arguments and giving honest consideration

*Has a know-it-all-attitude, never asks questions about things they don't understand, never admits that they don't know something

*Insists that everything unknown and unexplained must have a conventional materialistic explanation

*Is judgmental and quick to draw conclusions about things they know little or nothing about

*Uses semantics and word games with their own rules of logic to try to win arguments

*Is unable to adapt and update their paradigms to new evidence


Link


Cheers.

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reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 06:31 PM by karl 12
reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts



Ignore the facts -I can't realy see anything wrong with scepticism - its cynicism that gets me...that and wilfull ignorance.

Im sure if it wasn't for sincere open minded scepticism then we'd still be cowering in caves at thunder and lightning.

I posted this is in another thread and pretty much stand by it:

I certainly think some UFO debunkers have a 'psychological need' to debunk cases - irrespective of any facts that might get in the way.
I've also noticed that many are loathe to address certain incidents -instead preferring to just concentrate on the vague 'easy to explain away ' ones.

I suspect the mindset of the UFO cynic is far more dogmatic then pragamtic - perhaps they've got more in common with 'people who beleive everything is a UFO' than they like to think.

Cheers.


reply posted on 3-6-2009 @ 06:45 PM by IgnoreTheFacts
reply to post by karl 12



You know, your right. And I admit it is so easy to become a UFO cynic, and if one doesn't remain vigilante you can quickly find yourself dismissing things outright without actually using your brain. I know I have been guilty of this time and again. It is so hard to remain positive at times, what with all the "loving space brother" posts and whatnot. After a while one becomes "dead" inside and out comes the cynical attitude that paints things with far too broad of a brush to be useful.

Good point you made there.
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