"Game Over", Is it really?

When Barack Obama first announced and launched his campaign for the presedency, the whole world fell in love with his ideas! The american people, for the most part succumbed into a trance, setting aside their differences and falling for the same ole rhetoric that has engulfed us for the last 8 years, hook, line, and sinker! But hey, Obama's off the hook for now cause he's playing the ole, "he inherited the crisis" card. But while he (Obama) is furthering our debt and doing nothing to bring jobs back into america, the american people are still all glassy eyed and focused on the "Yes We Can" logo!

Obama's accomplishments so far: Chrysler going bankrupt, unemployment at a 25 year high, the dollar tanking further each day, GM going to file bankruptcy anytime now and has already closed it's parts stores for 60 days! This is only the tip of the iceberg folks, and we all know here at ATS that Henry Kissinger said that Obama has been "groomed" to bring in the new world order! So, how long before Obama turns us over to the will of the UN and the global elite? The nationalising of the banks has already begun, the state of Oklahoma has declared it's national sovereignty, and Obama keeps giving money to banks that he knows cannot and will not pay it back! And yet, his administration says that our economy is headed into a "recovery"?

The global currency is set for takeoff. China is already screaming for a global currency along with Russia, Cuba and Venezuela! But, with all of america's money problems, Obama still finds enough to give to Israel! We, the american people get a "stimulus" check, and israel gets billions? Now, what's wrong with that picture? Our economy, our lifestyles, our industries, our banks, and our sovereignty are now in the process of being downsized! So, does this mean that it's "Game Over?

See below for headlines and urls for all I have been speaking about here. Thankyou all of ya'll for your time!

Imminent Global Stock Market Crash to Support U.S. Dollar
www.marketoracle.co.uk...

The Nature of the Current Financial Crisis: The System is designed to exert Total Control over the Lives of Individuals
The Report from Iron Mountain Revisited
by Richard C. Cook
www.globalresearch.ca...

Actual U.S. Unemployment: 15.8%
voices.washingtonpost.com...

General Motors to temporarily shut parts plants
news.yahoo.com...

Star and Flag. Only because I want more attention to Obama's wonderful 'accomplishments'.

Not to mention, all of his failed promises. Or 'lies', to be more specific. He may end up being the worst thing to happen to this country, if his time in office so far is any indication.

Originally posted by thewind
When Barack Obama first announced and launched his campaign for the presedency, the whole world fell in love with his ideas! The american people, for the most part succumbed into a trance, setting aside their differences and falling for the same ole rhetoric that has engulfed us for the last 8 years, hook, line, and sinker!

Let me ask you a question?
You do realize he only got 49% of the vote right?

So that leaves 51% that never bought it. I will hazard a guess that those numbers would have been even less if they had known what was about to transpire over the past few months and to be perfectly fair and honest to him and what he has been trying to do, He pretty much inherited about 99% of the problems his administration have been dealing with.

So lets gets some perspective here.







[edit on 11-5-2009 by SLAYER69]

This is more Obama bashing, which it has facts that can be counterattacked with "well bush started it". So on and So forth.

The american people didn't succomb and adorn his ideas, they adorned his lies, they no nothing of his ideas, i'm surprised if he knows his ideas, or the puppet masters idea.

He chanted hope and faith, people jumped on, he made remarks about his skin colour., and it became popular to like him, or fear that in your circle you'd be considered racist.

It was more or less a forced win, he called Palin in this statement "You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig"

But had anyone said "You can paint a pig black, but its still a pig". They would've been considered racist, a bigot every cuss word in the book!

The man was untouchable when it came to attack him, or put down his views.

Madonna had a Picture with Hitler and Mccain side by side, no outrage no problem.

A man at the teaparty protests had a picture of Obama with the word fascist under neath it, and obama had a hitler mustache, (which was a common mustache in germany at the time) and CNN was outrage they called it not suitable for family!

Ask any Obama supporters why they voted for him, and you'll get a vague answer or an answer with nothing to back it up, just as Obama himself said "I am a blank television screen, people project what they want on to me and see me as that".

I'm not arguing sides of Rep Dem, just arguing the points you made.


We've seen these mistakes in electing celebrities example: Arnold Swcharzenegger, he's an ok actor, but why does that qualify him to be a politician?

Or if you haven't heard yet, b.www.mixx.com...

There are citizens, jumping on the train to elect a Porn Star to the senate. Why because its all popularity, the cool thing isn't always the best thing.

But with primitive people comes monumental times, comes monumental devastation.

Also complaining that you inherited this debt, says nothing, you wanted the job, so quit complaining about what came with it.

reply to post by thewind


So now what, the President has to babysit all the banks and the big three??
They all brought it on themselves with handing out mortgages to people with less than average credit and buying houses they had no business purchasing. All because they had to live beyond there means.

And as far as the big three go. I blame the U.A.W. union. When you pay someone $20.00 an hour to push a broom around , there's something wrong with that. Some people who go to college don't start out at that kind of a wage.

There vehicles have a poor design and no appeal to the consumer. There are a few select models that do sell. But that obviously does'nt keep their head above water.

This has been a long time coming and it's just the begining.

Well so far it seems all it's been the end of is the cohesion of the Republican party. I'd be surprised if we didn't see a major division with the GOP splitting into a centrist party and a Christian/libertarian party. The moderates in the party feel their party was hijacked by the religious right, and are furious at what has come about because of it. These moderates, and I've many friends that consider themselves such, are also quite put out by movements that the libertarian branch has taken especially their stance on a weaker federal government and flat taxation.

By contrast, it seems the Christians and libertarians feel that the Republican party has largely abandoned them after promising so much to get their votes. Many of them saw President Bush for the hack he was, and hated just getting lip service. We saw with the Tea Parties how mobilized this branch of the party is, and I don't believe they will continue too long with a party that they believe does not serve their interests.

However I think this split would be suicidal for the Right in this country. By dividing the vote of conservatives against one of the most popular presidents of all time would positively ensure defeat in 2012. Looking at this from the impartial lens of a tactical mindset alone, the fight that conservatives face politically in this nation right now is a hard one already.

Now if President Obama's policies do actually start to have their desired effect upon the economy, I do not see any possible way in which the conservatives can win anyways in 2012. If his actions vindicate him, he will go down as the second coming of FDR, and that puts the opposition in a wholly untenable position. I would also suggest that the Right not dismiss this idea out of hand either. I know you do not believe this will be possible but it is a contingency that must be taken into account. If President Obama gets that perfect wind, what then? Will your party be split and fighting amongst itself for the meager votes you carried in 1996 and 2008 or will you be working on issues?

Moderates: If you want to take your party back, you have to convince the other branches that you have the best ideas. Detailed, well reasoned proposals for how to tackle the nation's problems are the way to do this. For every single program and package President Obama passes, you should have an answer ready and waiting not of how to just derail it, but of what to do instead, and sell these ideas to the people.

Christians: If you want this country you have to figure out what it is exactly that you are willing to fight for. For too long the religious right has tried to have it all at once. Pick a cause and market it until the support comes. On top of this start small, before you overturn Roe V Wade outright start with something that has broader appeal like mandating waiting periods before abortions.

Libertarians: If you really want the power in the hands of the local and state governments, start there! Candidates like Huckabee or Paul will not be palatable to the national population for years to come, however regional elections are winnable. Target specific parts of the country, local, state, and House races in areas already favorable to your message. Libertarians love bottom up change, use it!

Good lord I can't believe I just gave all of that advice. Well take it for what it's worth, a liberal socialist telling the opposition how to win. At least nobody can say I don't believe in a strong two party system!

Originally posted by trthskr
The game isn't over it is just beginning.

theforbiddentruth.net...

"Interesting" forum you link there. But it could use a history subforum that goes back, in detail, before the 20th century, imho. It would be interesting to see those views reconciled with a reinterpretation ("true" interpretation?) of such historical record we have available.

You say the "game isn't over". Okay. Or was the game over in the 8th Century? Seems as much evidence either way. Prove it, or have fun and learn in trying to so attempt.

Thank you for posting!

star and flag for you.
all the optimism at the moment is based on green stock markets. but the truth is that shares are going up only cause investors are trying to use their money for anything with some value before the currency collapse.

There in lies the problem, the two party split. The problem with this country from day one, there is no middle ground. There is no balance and it will continue to get worse until people stop having totally radical views and admit that there even can be middle ground.And this means more of the public majority speaking up against what is wrong and working on getting some balance restored to this country.

reply to post by SLAYER69


[Let me ask you a question?
You do realize he only got 49% of the vote right?

So that leaves 51% that never bought it. I will hazard a guess that those numbers would have been even less if they had known what was about to transpire over the past few months and to be perfectly fair and honest to him and what he has been trying to do, He pretty much inherited about 99% of the problems his administration have been dealing with.

So lets gets some perspective here. ]
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First of all, Obama got 52.9% of the vote, not 49. I went back and looked this up. Secondly, Obama knew what he was inheriting, and he shouldn't have let his mouth write a check that his a** couldn't cash! Thirdly, Obama was very much aware of everything because it wasn't until "after" the election that it came into the plain view of his ties with nwo elitist Henry Kissinger. So, enough of the playing innocent here on Obama's behalf, cause it doesn't work on those of us who are wide awake!

Now let's look at the debt Obama"s placed on our future children. The 2010 3 trillion budget, the massive healthcare spending that doesn't even have a limit yet, then there's those expenditures for his "pork" projects like the "give" act and the continued throwing away of money to the bank bailouts and the auto industries! It's a funny thing, banks, the big 3, and wallstreet got trillions, and all the american people got was that big gigantic "stimulus" check!

Obamas just another puppet. if it wasnt obama doing this it would be mccain. if not bush then gore ect. i think the nazis may have used that "yes we can" slogan a few times.

Originally posted by MoreFunky85
Obamas just another puppet. if it wasnt obama doing this it would be mccain. if not bush then gore ect. i think the nazis may have used that "yes we can" slogan a few times.

I've heard this line of thinking a lot lately, the idea that both parties are in bed together and that we don't really have any choice. It usually ends with something along the lines of "so why try?" I wouldn't say that's exactly where you are going with this but I have heard it a lot.

I would counter that this is in fact a very dangerous path to go down. By disenfranchising the self from the political process one allows others to take their vote and voice on issues that affect their life.

reply to post by Darth Logan
Well, Obama has been babysitting wallstreet and the others who cried out for help when bush was in office hasn't he? The only reason Obama and bush bailed out wallstreet and the big boys at AIG is because that's who holds all the gov't retirement pensions! I totally agree with MF85. Obama's just another puppet!