I've had problems getting .380 ammo and 7.62x39 ammo for the past couple of months. The main franchise outlets run out of ammo the day it comes in, and their shipments are getting further and further apart. A local gun store owner told me the problem is with the 'primers.' The 2 or 3 manufacturers of primers signed huge contracts with the Israeli government to manufacture primers for their military. They are having a hard time fulfilling their obligations, and their is no production capacity left for retail sales. Supposedly, the contracts start running out at the end of this year, so maybe prices will start coming down. I am sure the Gaza offensive did not help the situation.

If anyone on ATS is better funded than I, a primer factory would go great in N. Georgia. There are already several arms manufacturers there, favorable tax laws, and a good work force.................

Just saying.

Ive never reloaded my own ammo but I'm starting to think about going to the range and collecting some brass. I have a friend with our club that reloads rifle ammo so I'm going to run it by him and see what he needs to reload me some 9mm.

I stopped going to the range months ago in order to preserve what 9mm I have left. My friends have done the same. I now practice in my basement with a high quality gas operated Sig 226 air soft replica. Its cheap, easy and operates and feels just like the real steel. It also fits like a glove in my IWB holster. It is great to practice with and to keep the muscle memory sharp.

the walmart around the corner from me is missing about 80% of it's ammo from the shelves *but* I was at academy the other day and they didn't seem to be running low

The great gun rush of 09 is still going strong, slowing down a little bit though. I even read in a "by police for police" gun magazine where a certain article urged civilians to buy and store ammo, they recommended at least 1 to 2 thousand rounds.

Is there any precedent for this? I'm sure I read somewhere that after 9/11 the same thing happened. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think the thing people need to focus on is that people are scared, they think Obama is gonna take all their guns, there's an economic crisis in full swing, American leadership is on the decline after 8 years of Idiot Bush...

What bugs me though, is that all those with assault weapons (which I understand will be the first thing to be targeted) are out buying up all their ammo, but what are they going to do if the law is changed? Hide the guns?
People know they have them, and someone will pass that info on.

If the law is changed, they've just wasted a considerable amount of money and effort, or they plan to have a shoot-out with those who come to size them.

My opinion? Obama did what every other politician does, he used a popular theme to gain support and has no intention of acting on it. He knows as well as any right-wing republican that actually taking a step to outlaw guns would cause civil chaos.
It's one thing to take the opportunity to vote on something when the issue is raised, and a completely different thing to make a final decision on something so sensitive.

So he voted on gun control. Doesn't mean that's something he'll take the blame for when he's in power.

Ultimately it might lead to some radicalization, and homegrown terrorism by right-wing nut jobs, that seems inevitable. But I very much doubt Obama is going to actually start riling up the public on gun control.

This is a progressive idea, it'll happen over time, and it'll likely happen the same way your civil rights were watered-down. Things will happen and events will force public opinion until people are voluntarily giving their guns up while calling for tougher controls. When there is then a minority holed-up in makeshift camps, numbers that can be controlled, the government will move in to remove the last "pockets of resistance". But none of this is going to happen anytime soon.

The ammo situation is nothing but panic-buying by an idiot public. What should be a fear is what this is creating, the groups feeding off of it. Those seeing the panic and joining in might be thinking this is more than it is, and if TPB decide they are a risk (as is being stated in the media) they become a target.
It seems self-fulfilling to a point;
The myth and fear causes panic (buying of ammo), the panic causes more radical action (formation of closed groups and radical ideas), the radical action causes a response (SWAT teams raiding militias), the response causes the radical action to spread (militias fearing the same will happen to them unless they fight)...

For all the people buying the guns and ammo, how many of them are going to use them if the government ever do do something?

I doubt many of these so called american patriots will even do anything, like we saw in the katrina thing.

So what you are doing is buying something you will not use, and just giving your money to the military industrial complex. Nice of you to send there shares up, lol.

Who Cares??? That is why I beleive in the true art of swords. You'll never have a shortage of sharp objects. Plus it takes skill to use such, unlike guns. And I know I have used both, I was trained by the military, and the thing about swords is, It shows true bravery. Hand to hand or sword to sword is a very intimate exchange; unlike sitting cowering in the bushes hitting an enemy from 300ft.

I found a whole case of 1952 head stamp 30.06 military ball the other day.
the next day the shop had another case. so old surplus ammo is still out there

I am going to pull the bullets on a few boxes and replace them with hunting bullets.

The shop also had a few cases of old russian 7.62x39

I could be the shop owner had his own stockpile and now that he can get a good price for it is selling the old ammo and plans to replace it with new ammo later.