I'm sure it was him and not one of his PR aids that said it...... Because he probably spends all his time on making sure where he is going to speak is just right.

If this wouldn't have been done then you would have another post saying how he is mixing religion with politics and its so wrong of him. Damned either way I guess.

With everything going on in the world, why is this such a concern for you? It's not like he did anything negative to it, he just didn't have it showing so it was neutral.

It doesn't bother me. If you want to go on a tangent and make an extreme out of a simple request...no one is stopping you. People make unfounded and ridiculous claims all the time.

whats obamas problem with christianity? maybe he really is the anti christ.

Originally posted by whoshotJR

If this wouldn't have been done then you would have another post saying how he is mixing religion with politics and its so wrong of him. Damned either way I guess.

I disagree I do not make a point out of targeting Obama .

I do however take offense to these " small " changes that we seem to be seeing more and more of now a days that seem to forever change the country .

And as for is crafty PR people that you speak of could they be the same handlers that advised him to bow to every one he met well over seas ?

Maybe he needs some new handlers .

Just another excuse...

“I have a concern about the very sharp turn to socialism that’s happening in our government,” Fleming said.

Maybe he didnt want to make the impression that christ was a part of his government?

I mean, George made a big effort to say he brought religion into the whitehouse, maybe Obama's saying the opposite?

Religion has NO PLACE in government, it has a place in each and everyones heart, and thast where it stops.
In no way should Obama's request NOT to speak with it behind him, conflict, annoy, demoralize, socialise, or anything other 'ise' ANYONES backing of Obama or their religion.

The point of religion is its for you, yourself and 'I', Even if Obama was AGAINST the image of christ, big bloody deal.

I think Americans need to grow up a bit, stop sucking on the baby bottle and expecting everyone to love 'their' god, do as they 'suggest'

I dont believe jesus even exists in this fairy tale story.

But thats me, and like Obama im entitled to act, react or do anything i feel about 'my' religious beliefs.
so get over it!

A: He likely didn't want to appear to be mixing church with state.

B: He didn't want to appear in a photograph with a huge "JESUS" (IHS) symbol over his head.


I know if I was doing a press conference and there was a huge title hanging over my head of someone else, I wouldn't want to give the wrong impression, I'd have it covered too.


Obama can't be the Anti-Christ... I've been accused of that already.

I agree government should have nothing to do with religion and thats exactly why he should have let it be .

Why should the government show up at a place to give a speech and then request that the place " modify " there religious symbols ?

If I am not mistaken that could also be seen as an infringement on ones right to expression or ones freedom of speech .

Who really cares if its christian , Muslim or whatever , not the point .

I find it very telling that Representative Fleming used this as an opportunity to fuel American fears of "socialism". This is not about religion or reverence for god--it is purely political. The goal is to urge Christian Americans toward the right out of fear of the great monster that is godlessness; the rest of the Obama-wary Americans are rounded up by using the fear of socialism (a bogeyman positioned as representative of the Democratic Party). It's in your best interest to see the charade for what it is--these politicians are not concerned about protecting your god or your liberty, but rather about protecting their own party interests. You'd all do well to study up on Joseph McCarthy and co.'s antics during the Cold War--these tactics are not new.

I am not a supporter of Obama, but nor will I be taken in by these scoundrels. You don't have to choose between the two.

I think it's a good idea he doesn't give speeches with prominent Christian symbols or emblems in the background.

Also where are you getting that Albert Pike founded the KKK ?
I googled him and he was a freemason but a clansmen ?

I find it hard to believe an outright clansman would have a statue in DC.

This is yet another utter bollocks knee-jerk reaction to the most trivial of instances.......

Reminds me of the 'hue and cry' when former Attorney General John Ashcroft demanded that the naked breasts of a STATUE be covered for his press conferences at the Justice Department!!!

I bleedin' STATUE, for pity's sake!!!

Some people need to grow up......