Anti-Gravity Revealed ??

Has the government reversed engineered anti-gravity propulsion systems from downed UFO's ? The following videos discuss the use of a circular accelerator centrifuge rotating a Mercury based plasma at 60,000 revolutions per minute, pressurised at 250,000 atmospheres and cooled to 150 kelvin . In the following video Edgar A. Fouche an avionics specialist discribes the Aurora Project's TR-3B using the same type of propulsion.

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I know the economy is not in a great position right now and not everyone has a lot of disposable income, but why doesn't someone with a bit of cash reproduce this? If this is indeed an accurate representation of antigravity technology it would be overwhelmingly profitable for someone to recreate this. The products this tech could be used are are numerous and the price it would fetch would be great. I wish someone would try to reproduce it by these instructions.

I saw this a while ago and can't remember where, but it seems like they feel they are on to something. Seems plausable, though someone without extensive education in chemistry, and science in general, would have a hard time telling if this could work just by watching the videos. I mean to the layperson it sounds terrific, but there is no way to know if these principles, if applied according to the spcifications, could even come close to anything of a working machine.

Would love to see it work though.

The federal government may already be knowingly or unknowingly funding this technology. I'd say unknowingly.

And I would suggest that there is a version of this "triangle" shaped craft that now is almost "invisible." No lights at all underneath, and completely silent.

In fact, anymore, I don't scan the sky at night like I used to. The bottom of this thing is akin to the effect as we saw in Predator, and unless you are looking at one star and note the slight disturbance, as it crosses your vision, you'll never see it, but will then be able to make out the shape. They haven't fixed the outline yet.

One other note. At ultra high voltage, things start getting a little squirrel-ly. The normal laws of physics are out the window. Very sharp high voltage gradients do some amazing things, reversing normal observances.

Is it possible that this Mercury-based material could be so altered by introducing ultra high voltage, that the freezing point is somehow altered?

After all, with ultra high voltage and very sharp gradients, everything else is altered.

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I would say the government is unknowingly funding this technology also. Interesting this new version of "triangle" you mentioned that is almost invisible . The military is now engaged in optical camoflauge research . It makes sense that these craft already have this technology .

very interesting videos, wish i was super rich i would bring together a team and try building.

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Say if you had the funding and the scientific personnel to duplicate what is stated in these videos, There is still the government to contend with .

great video. thank you very much for sharing!
having just recently gradated with a degree in physics/geophysics, i would love for a massive privatization push on advanced technology like this. implications are world changing.

im also trying to get my head around this one, if the super-fluid rotates to 60000 rpm, at 150K, where the space-time fabric is distorted, does the craft then float on the wave of its own gravity? or does it create an upward force that cancels out gravity???

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The TR-3B in this video seems to have some kind of verticle stabilisers in the rear of the craft.

I am rather surprised that no one has made mention of all those religious stories from India where ancient metal craft flew through the sky powered by mercury...

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In the Sanskrit Samarangana Sutradhara, it is written:

"Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mecrcury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth."

So, just like the TR-3B, you have a mercury rotating engine, unusual flight characteristics, and alien based.

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Originally posted by The Soothsayer
I am rather surprised that no one has made mention of all those religious stories from India where ancient metal craft flew through the sky powered by mercury...

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In the Sanskrit Samarangana Sutradhara, it is written:

"Strong and durable must the body of the Vimana be made, like a great flying bird of light material. Inside one must put the mercury engine with its iron heating apparatus underneath. By means of the power latent in the mecrcury which sets the driving whirlwind in motion, a man sitting inside may travel a great distance in the sky. The movements of the Vimana are such that it can vertically ascend, vertically descend, move slanting forwards and backwards. With the help of the machines human beings can fly in the air and heavenly beings can come down to earth."

So, just like the TR-3B, you have a mercury rotating engine, unusual flight characteristics, and alien based.

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Amazing ; the stories discribe this technology to a T.

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Very glad you started this thread, HAMILTON. I've found many of the 'alienscientist' vids on utube to be entertaining and thought-provoking.

I was thinking the other day about how revolutionary technologies cause sea changes in a society. Consider that we, in the West, have only been 'industrialized' for just over a century. In 1909 the automobile was still a rarity. Imagine if the horse-and-buggy building industry had as much clout as the current Auto industry does....and all the other various industries that tie in....not to mention the Oil Companies.

How much disruption will occur with the introduction of wide-spread 'free' energy and anti-grav propulsion? Better yet, HOW can these new techs be integrated into society without doing terrible damage to the economies of countries?

This is the blocking point -- I think, it is the greed, and the inability to think outside the box. Done correctly, this new tech could supplant the old, and has the potential for MORE profits, if the greedy old farts would only see it.

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that is the coolest video i've seen on the subject

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I think he might be on to something. I have analyzed the same data and found that there is a remarkable resemblance to my own designs. Locating the scientists with the math to advance this has been one of my efforts. Getting money for projects like this is getting easier as well. I think some remarkable technology will shake up the status quo and they will not be able to block it for much longer in this highly competitive world.

I am sure this has been discussed on ATS before.
The Vimanika Shastra is something that has motivated me to(someday) get around to reading the entire Mahabarata. Just the fact that before there were supposedly machines, there are text that go into great detail about them, how they were built and all that jazz...albeit in words that often mean nothing to the modern reader and even some people you think should know this stuff, many of the words are subject to various interpretations and meanings stifling one's complete understanding.
Since we do not trust the current understanding of our world and the laws that govern it, it is only logical to look further back as part of one's quest for the truth and where better to start than the oldest story known about the one thing we are interested in...conquering gravity!

One thing I found interesting in the first video is the use of the Isaac/CARET/Drone operations schematic as a background image. Funny, that. I'd saved the high res images to reconstruct the entire diagram myself, until it was exposed as a total hoax(or was the exposition the hoax?).
Oh, and the Dupi-Color paint is called "Mirage"...they make other types that don't do the iridescent effect, of course. Minor niggles, I assure you.

At any rate, about the purple color of the fluid...if the Bell legend is true and the witness testimony from a UFO crash site where they saw the liquid pooled is also true, then there are some sources that speculate on the composition of Xerum 525(Mercury, of course, Quartz, I believe? and some other fun stuff with radioactive properties) and that it would glow violet when activated(no doubt by pumping massive amounts of voltage through it?). Could be that this was due to illumination of a purple component in the mix that would also be visible in natural sunlight or maybe even simply by being outside of it's container.

At any rate, I went on this same quest a few years ago which is what ultimately led me to ATS, actually.
Swung through americanantigravity.com, watched all the UFO clips, Bob Lazar interviews, then the Drone deal which was yet to be debunked, so it seemed like things were coming to a head...still waiting...

The closest I have seen to the real deal is the antigrav setups they've been doing with high voltage drawing an ionic wind downward forcing the super light triangular craft upwards, but this isn't true antigravity in my book and the sharper image has been capitalizing on this principle for years. If it were the real deal, the sharper image would have the antigravity hoverboard on the market by now.

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Very glad you started this thread, HAMILTON. I've found many of the 'alienscientist' vids on utube to be entertaining and thought-provoking.

I was thinking the other day about how revolutionary technologies cause sea changes in a society. Consider that we, in the West, have only been 'industrialized' for just over a century. In 1909 the automobile was still a rarity. Imagine if the horse-and-buggy building industry had as much clout as the current Auto industry does....and all the other various industries that tie in....not to mention the Oil Companies.

How much disruption will occur with the introduction of wide-spread 'free' energy and anti-grav propulsion? Better yet, HOW can these new techs be integrated into society without doing terrible damage to the economies of countries?

This is the blocking point -- I think, it is the greed, and the inability to think outside the box. Done correctly, this new tech could supplant the old, and has the potential for MORE profits, if the greedy old farts would only see it.

I agree ; If done correctly this technology would supplant the old, I believe as long as the facade of oil dependancy continues, "the old farts " will not allow it.

I'm glad you posted this. It has sparked some thought. I think in order to understand this we must remember that we live on a giant electromagnet, with a possibly similar ferrofluid core. Though somewhat distorted from outside effects, the flux lines are toroidal. I'll get back to this.

Now this system is inside a larger system based around our sun, and that in another, and that..? How far does that go? I digress.

This sounds as if what is being done is to create another system within our own. In short, the emf generated induces the movement. Now back to the magnetic flux and motional emf. The tilting of the craft to move horizontally with respect to the surface of the earth, I believe, relates to how we can measure the flux depending how it changes from the normal to the surface. We probably would see Faraday's law come into it as well given that the flux fluctuates in time. Lenz's law come's in too, but in reverse. If we know the direction of the field, we can manipulate it so that it opposes the change in flux.


It makes sense to me, I'm not sure if i really accomplished explaining what I'm seeing.

It seems that the controlled emf within the measured emf would suffice. So that brings us to creating the emf, which can be done with a generator, but how exactly do we create a self sustaining emf through induction from the other? Ha.

Now if all this could work, what does that tell us about gravity? That it is actually, some sort of low level, or modal, side effect from the em, due to the entrapment that is matter? Gravity and em certainly behave similarly, or at least mathematically they do on different scales.


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When I was in college back in TX almost 10yrs ago in a Mechanical Engineering program my fluid dynamics professor and his TA were experimenting with something like this they found on the web and were getting somewhere. I remember seeing they duplicated something like this with a small object in a large fish tank. He was planning to get backers to help him build something big and I believe had already raised $300,000 over time. Mysteriously he died of a heart attack about a month after showing this to myself and two other lab partners in a class totally unrelated to the subject. He rarely slept because of this obsession and his health suffered from it.

Can someone with hookups who reads this board get MythBusters on this project already? I know there are many influential people reading and know theoretically some of these projects might work. I think I have seen about 10 similar all over the web using different magnetized liquids. dsc.discovery.com...

If not that, can't someone here create a PayPal Trust and have people donate to it? 500k or 1m for R&D to build a viable vehicle is not that much when spread out across all the readers of this forum. I would probably be able to locate his widow and drop down what he raised if she has it and wanted to complete his work (doubtful any widow with college-aged kids would though)

Umm, not to burst anyone's bubble here, but...


What's with blurting out in the first video "FOR ALL YOU DEBUNKERS THE ONLY WAY TO DISPROVE THIS IS TO BUILD IT", which really doesn't make any sense... after all, wouldn't it be more prudent to, I don't know, build it first and then put it on youtube?

That would be like my saying "I have traveled backward in time and not messed with The Present, because we are still here. Prove me wrong!"

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Used to be a time where if someone made a claim, they had to back themselves up with facts... now all it takes is a... a sound clip with a photo slide show and it's then taken as truth.

Yes, I am the same person that posted earlier, discussing ancient devices along these lines... I am just wishing to make a statement.

Facts. Where are they? All we got was "Oh, it's too difficult to explain" or "I am not going to bother, as you need to know Type 1 Physics first"... me, I would tell you how I can travel through time and interact with your grandparents without worrying that you won't exist anymore, but you're just, well, not up to my speed.

Is the person behind this video really expecting us to except these things without anything more than his word?

Now, I do believe in anti-gravity. Tesla was working on it, and I seem to recall an experiment in which electromagnetics and vacuum tubes reduced the measurable weight of an object... electromagnetism is the key, as these three forces are universal and must effect each other.

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Anti-gravity is a myth like anti-matter. It is made up by sci-fi writers to create scientific sounding terms to solve problems with the kind of sci-fi stuff they write.

Think about it please, gravity is a force created by mass and density. The only way to create 'anti-gravity' would be to make a negative mass and that is...impossible. Even for the first one-hundred it was so why the heck do you think anyone else can do it?
Cloaking, given that exists, faster then the speed of light? Still possible. heck, wormholes are possible. But anti-gravity is not. Yes, you can fight the effects of gravity by jumping, flying and bouncin over the electro-magnetic field of the planets but you can't cancel out gravity by creating a negative mass.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but keep it real.

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Great thread, thanks for the vids..........
I really do believe that this technology exists, and of course buried from the public, probably not-to-be released for another 50 years. I am one of those people who believes the account of Corso -back engineered alien tech-, but I don't believe everything that is said in his book "The Day After Roswell". It's as if the real info has been made a monster-of while publishing this book.