Super Soldier programs?, page 3
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reply posted on 1-8-2010 @ 11:58 PM by Aim64C
There are many different programs out there aimed at improving the strength, agility, and intelligence of soldiers and operatives.

It simply depends upon how deep you expect the rabbit-hole to go.

If you want a program that attempted to do something like manipulate human DNA and alter our physiology from development in the womb to birth - then I doubt there has been much research. The closest that could be done to that is gene mapping and research into how we actually develop in the womb (presence of valuable fatty acids crucial to brain development, and how altering chemical balances can manipulate the process).

If you want to look into programs like MKULTRA and others of contentious status, then those indicate a search for heightened human abilities and senses that exist naturally within the population.

Then you can get into various training programs like the SEALs and others. They go from training people how to be aware of their surroundings (and exposing them to a number of factors that impair their judgment so they can be aware of when those factors are influencing them), and work on improving physiological response.

It may not sound like the Halo-series "Spartan" projects - but even a few months of training can cut reaction times in half - often times even less. The Marines will trade kicks and punches in a process known as "bone hardening" - every time you stress your skeletal structure, microscopic cracks appear - which later get rebuilt stronger by your body.

And then you can take the technological end of it - exoskeletons, augmented reality, combat networks, etc. Those are really only in their infancy. While certain exoskeletons have been developed - none of them are really all that viable for combat purposes. They are quite useful in logistics, as it allows a single person to manipulate far larger loads safely and quickly - but their use in combat would be quite small - and even combat-oriented models would be designed to play more of a support role (clearing debris in an urban environment and that sort of thing) rather than a direct combat role.


reply posted on 15-8-2010 @ 04:12 AM by Shatner
Originally posted by seasoul
Why reinvent the wheel, when a "super soldier" program already exists.

These particular "super soldiers" are not only extremely lethal, they are also extremely wise, compassionate, and spiritually realized.



They are also completely irrelevant in a modern combat environment. I have yet to meet anyone who can dodge M855, nor anyone who can protect themselves from an air-dropped cluster-munition.

An unarmed man who can eliminate 18 men, moving so fast as to be untrackable by the mk.1 mod.0 eyeball for an accurate sight picture does not exist. I would have to believe that if such a person were to exist, they would have some sort of pre-cognitive ability which would have allowed them to escape the engagement envelope of the ensuing air-strike. I also question the ability of any surviving unit members to extract themselves to the minimum safe distance from said airstrike with out the unarmed superman being able to close with and destroy them.

People who believe that certain persons are capable, with no training, of besting a highly trained Special Operations soldier, salior, airman or Marine are deluding themselves. It takes a minimum of 3,000 repetitions for a gross motor act to become ingrained and instinctive.

I have never seen any program in which Marines routinely engage in martial arts with the express purpose of hardening their bones through micro-fractures. Though it is a valid practice for a dedicated martial artist, no one in a MEU, Force or Marsoc has that kind of time to dedicate to unarmed fighting techniques when there are much more effective methods available to kill your enemy.

There is a program in the military called The Superman School and its is hosted by the Airforce. It's produces pararescuemen(PJs). It's an informal name.

SEALs are not the end-all-be-all of the Special Operations community, as seems to be the prevailing consensus in this thread. They have a specific mission skill-set in which they excel. When they exceed their mission parameters, they tend to perform poorly. This is not the fault of the individual or the Team as a whole, but rather their command in attempting to have SEALs perform a mission that are neither trained or equipped for. Also, there is no Team 6. If you used the term DevGru, you'd be a little closer to current.

There are no super soldiers. Human warriors are fallible and make mistakes. Combat is dynamic and often surprises you.

The possibility always exists that there is a deep black project that may be experimenting with improving the lethality of soldiers via genetic engineering, eugenics, nanotechnology or robotics/cybernetics but if it did exist, it would be so far removed from the modern battlefield as to be moot.
The simple loss of one of the project's subjects would immediately expose the entire program to the public eye.

My apologies for this being my first post. I registered with the express purpose of posting in the Blackwater thread as I have some degree of experience in the matter, but it seems to be dead and I didn't want my first post to be a necro-resurrection.

Shatner sends.


reply posted on 20-8-2011 @ 10:02 AM by MarkScheppy
reply to post by RuneSpider


**disclaimer, of course this is all speculative and unproven. But it makes sense to me!

I think the Military is pursuing a fallen angel approach. Look at the movies being made now, all of the popular ones are all trying to seep out information of the top secret, underground super soldier program. I don't really care though, what is the military trying to prove? Using billions of taxpayer hard working American dollars to build an Ironman suit that can fly and shoot projectiles out of his hand.'

Or Rise of the Planet of the Apes technology, using genetic engineering to create human/animal hybrids to use them for some future wars. Running fast, jumping high, acute hearing and sense perceptions. The Green hornet, Thor, all of this crap they are throwing out at us. These people are all going to hell that is my Christian belief. They aren't helping the better part of mankind by building super soldiers. And they are probably killing many of these guinea pigs (human beings) who are volunteering to have things injected into them or genetically modified; or they don't meet the expectations of the program and so they are killed. They don't want to risk them squealing about it to the public. Probably some really dark things are being done and we won't ever know about.



Revelation 12:9 ESV
And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world—he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.

Jude 1:6-7 ESV
And the angels who did not stay within their own position of authority, but left their proper dwelling, he has kept in eternal chains under gloomy darkness until the judgment of the great day— just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.



edit on 20-8-2011 by MarkScheppy because: additions and typos



reply posted on 23-8-2011 @ 02:44 AM by Buford2


This is just part one of a video I saw a few months ago. The rest can be found at Youtube. Were these ladies an a experiment gone wrong.
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reply posted on 6-11-2011 @ 10:07 AM by kaskad
Originally posted by DOADOA
No training or any amount of brainwashing will EVER replace what you're born with. Yes people this include people of all race and background not just white. Sometimes we just need to be reassured of our superiority in this world.... although a false one. In my opinion, a born fighter with no training of any kind in the modern war zone will outlast and out perform any Navy SEAL or Green Beret. Please forgive me if you think I'm ignorant but after years of living in the reality of war I have seen too much to weigh anything on the training I've received. The media and movies have fooled us into believing training meant something, that in itself is a stunning display of misinformation. I have witnessed a man in slippers, straw hat, and a pajama killed 18 soldier in broad daylight in a conventional engagement before we called in an airstrike for this ONE single man. He was swift, dead accurate, amazingly quick in his movements and too small of a target for us to aim at. These are the few moments in my life I will never forget and nothing is more terrifying to me than this man we couldn't kill. No corpse was found by us after the napalm.
You want a super soldier? He's probably your neighbor or some schmuck you saw walking down the street.

I don't know what conflict you were in, or where you coming from, but losing 18 soldiers sounds like a total BS to me. Are you all that fuc**d up ? is your PL a freaking idiot ? I mean, jesus christ! that's two squads, or 4 fire teams. There is no freaking way one person with a rifle could do that. 3-4 man mortar teams don't even last 20 minutes in my own personal experience.


reply posted on 14-11-2011 @ 07:05 PM by Beyondthelimit
reply to post by ATSGUY


Can you send me proof and evidence for the ability of making skin bullet proof through the power of the mind?


reply posted on 31-3-2012 @ 02:15 AM by pizzawings
reply to post by TurkeyBurgers


Im not sure If I had taken the same exact mushrooms. A few years ago. But I have taken some form of abnormal mushroom. I remember running across a 15-20 foot swamp,without touching the water,only running across sticks at nighttime, and without looking underneath me. Ran across the whole swamp without getting any water on my self at all. at a very high rate of speed.

In a seperate wooded area,pitch black and foggy with no lights at all, was able to see through the fog and darkness.

And every time I do these mushrooms I run extremely fast,probably 55-70 miles an hour,if I run 15 miles an hour normally.
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