Super Soldier programs?, page 1
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reply posted on 18-4-2009 @ 05:39 PM by ATSGUY
Are you kidding, has there even been a super soldier program! HELL YES!

it is one of the things i am really interested it...

I guess it goes back to stalin and hitler really...

The Soviets tried to create a half man/ape that could be controlled and basically be as smart as a human with the strength of an ape.

www.ufodigest.com...

According to Russian newspapers Stalin' stated, "I want a new invincible human being, insensitive to pain, resistant and indifferent about the quality of food they eat."


Hitler was the one that really pionerd the SuperSoldier stuff, he had a program during the war or a couple of years before it started that delt with finding people that had paranormal abilities. This was also done by the KGB who found Nina Kulagina



Also there is no record of this i think, but there was a rumor that the KGB took some eggs from Nina, or made her have children that were basically 2nd generation psychics or something.

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The Most famous case and amazing story of a super soldier program was Montauk super man. The guy was named Andy Pero, as a child he was subjected to military training and mkultra mind control programing. He was their Golden Boy.



In August of 1998, I met Andy Pero in Philadelphia, PA while attending Bob Eure’s CIREAP group. At the time I was scheduled to be a speaker on my Alien Abduction research. Preston Nichols also presented his material that evening. Preston brought Andy Pero with him this evening as a surprise guest to share some of his "Montauk Boy" experiences.After I first lectured, Andy walked up to me to tell me that he had been in underground bases, and recalled a memory of walking down a hallway in some underground facility, seeing women and children in chickenwire cages, screaming for help. He also said he’d seen reptilians. After Preston lectured on his material, he handed over the floor to Andy. Andy spoke about his Montauk time travel experiences, mind programming, electroshock treatments, and training sessions to be a multi-talented covert operative and assassin for his "secret government" Nazi mind programmers. Andy described how his mind was split through trauma, electroshock, and sophisticated mind programming techniques. He told us about his training in Silva Mind Control as a young boy, and how he was able to do extraordinary human feats under mind control programming, such as jumping off high buildings without injury—hence the nickname "Superman". He also had a good knowledge of the occult and metaphysical world and confirmed the power of prayer.


here is his story:
educate-yourself.org...

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Project Camelot has a good interview with Duncan Ofinioan

www.projectcamelot.net...

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Here is an amazing Interview with Larry Solarz on being a "Super Warrior in the Military:

Part 1 of 19


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There is SO MUCH more information...allot of deals with creating a super soldier that had advanced psychic abilities. Most of the people interviews talk about being able to lift cars with their minds or kill people with a thought, open up portals in front of them. Become invisible through telepathy, and some could even fly or levitate.

Also the physical attributes are amazing. Running faster than 70miles per hour, scaling vertical walls by running up them like a super Jackie Chan. Making their skin bullet proof through the power of the mind, being able to jump from 30,000ft at terminal velocity and land on the ground without a scratch. Instant healing through the power of the mind, that is healing a broken spinal cord, cuts, broken bones...basically like wolverine.

Not only that but some of the people had amazing mental arithmetic abilities. Being able to read and memorize an entire 1000 page book in like 2min and remember 95% of it (its on project Camelot, look under the news section).

Also if you look at stuff like Cathy O'Brien, she says that women in the program were used basically for breeding super soldiers and as sex slaves for upper political leaders of the world...





reply posted on 18-4-2009 @ 06:11 PM by mostlyspoons
I would imagine that super soldier programs have existed for a long time...

The Spartans of Greece were akin to an entire race of super soldiers, so lets look at them...
They were supposedly of the bloodline of Hercules, a half god of Greek lore who possessed unnatural strength and endurance.
They weeded out the weak by casting any babies born imperfect over a tall cliffside.
They seperated them from their family at a young age, and forced them to live or die in the wilderness, forced them to kill. They erased any semblence of humanity or mercy from their minds, creating cold blooded killers.
For the spartan warrior, war and killing was all he knew. They were the best because they had no fear of death. This capacity was erased from their minds at a young age.

So to create a super soldier, you must first start with a crop of genetically enhanced males, carefully selecting from among them the best possible candidates and getting rid of the rest. They would have to grow up in a cold, heartless environment, possibly never knowing the meaning of family or compassion. Their curriculum would include a strict diet of mostly protein and endurance enhancing vitamins, lots of brainwashing and programming, ridding them of even the possibility of fear, doubt, or individuality, and fully aquainting them at very young ages with death, violence, and cruelty.
Once they got older, building upon their programmed foundation with advanced combat techniques would be easy, as discipline and unquestioning devotion to their superiors is already programmed into their brains. Perhaps they could even augment their physical abilities with technological implants or gear.

None of that sounds outside the realm of possibilty, does it? Most of what you'd need to create super soldiers is knowledge and technology thats been around for 50+ years.
Now its obviously not impossible, but how probable is it that super soldier programs have existed or do now?
The cost effectiveness would have to outweigh the cost of developing super soldiers for it to be a probable program. Obviously the cost of what I laid out above would be quite high, and results wouldnt be seen until the subjects were grown enough to be in battle, roughly 20 years after the programs inception. That would mean the financiers of such a venture would be without returns on their investments for quite some time, and even then the effectiveness of the program wouldnt be known until they were combat proven, which could end in a horrible failure translating to a complete waste of money, resources and time on the military's part.

What would be a more probable alternative would be if they covertly introduced a system of brainwashing, chemical/hormonal alteration, drugs, and other methods into a population of soldiers, without their knowledge, over a long period of time, taking note of the effects and perfecting the process until you have regular people who can unconsciously slip into "soldier mode" given the right circumstances. This of course would be helped by the and The problem with that is during the perfecting process the problems experienced by the soldiers on whom this was being tested would be very evident. That problem would be counteracted by denial on the military's part which eliminates any culpability and then by supplying a pre-scripted, official reason for the phenomena. Yes this is happening now, you know it as PTSD or post-traumatic stress disorder, gulf-war syndrome, flashbacks, shellshock etc.

this didnt work so well, so the next goal is creating an army of machines that could carry out ANY order, never die, never retreat, and be mass-produced so any unit that DOES go down would quickly be replaced. They could be solar-powered, remote controlled OR act on its own AI. This would be a very cost effective, efficient sollution to the super-soldier question, and would eliminate the loss of human life, at least for the country using the robots.


reply posted on 18-4-2009 @ 09:45 PM by timfix
www.youtube.com...

duncan 's story is one worth checking out ,he wrote a book too.
he's also recently interviewed on a audio only clip go to news at project camelot . org

the black ops jerk offs never even paid him yet made him live like a animal durring training and play jason borne assasin . he still has a chip in his head. i presume the black ops that work with greys used the same type of implant the greys use. he also had a grey visit as a kid right as he was selected ,this is why i say that.

yes its a strange or mad mad world and the bastards in control need to be taken out. the good et's need to land and put on some ninja clothing and go to work on them .


reply posted on 19-4-2009 @ 10:21 AM by daersoulkeeper
reply to post by DOADOA



haha man SUPER SOLDIER IN A STRAW HAT!! that was priceless. loved it..wish i was there to see it...........



reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 06:11 PM by FerTheBetter
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heres a video of an army test with LSD on soldiers

[edit on 26-4-2009 by FerTheBetter]


reply posted on 26-4-2009 @ 06:23 PM by Redpillblues
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your absolutely correct..You are born with instincts,and tallent..The millitary on groom soldiers to the best of there ability..That is why seals have a very high wash out ratio..
And Seals are not the top of the food chain..Though bad ass.particurly team 6,but there is are other high speed operators that surpass them..
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