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Originally posted by karl 12
In October 1957 the Brazilian Navy set up a small scientific base on the unoccupied island, where oceanographic and meteorological research would be conducted in connection with the International Geophysical Year. Starting early the next month, instrument-bearing weather balloons were launched daily.
They were designed to explode in the upper atmosphere, releasing the instrument packages which would parachute to earth to be retrieved by the researchers.By the end of the month base personnel were reporting silvery UFOs which seemed to be monitoring the balloons’ movements.
I am not so sure about the unoccupied island in 1957, i think Trindadians would have a lot more to say about the above statement.
The American rights to the airfield were obtained via the Destroyers for Bases Agreement in September 1940 when the United States transferred fifty destroyers to Great Britain in exchange for Army and Navy base rights on British possessions in the Americas.
In 1941, Trinidad was alarmed by a large number of Nazi U-Boats prowling of its coastline, intent on disrupting British shipping in the Caribbean Sea, and using the Vichy French controlled island of Martinique as a possible supply facility. Although the first United States Army personnel arrived on Trinidad on 24 April 1941, it was only with the United States' entry into the war in early 1942 that Allied planners decided to counter the Nazi threat by establishing major air and naval facilities on Trinidad.
Waller Army Airfield was activated on 1 September 1941 with the assignment of the 92d Service Group. The unit's mission was to establish a flying facility within the United States Army Fort Read post. The unit consisted of the group's Headquarters, and the 92d Air Base and 309th Material Squadrons. The group was assigned to the Caribbean Air Force.
So as per the attachment, if a MAJOR airforce and naval base was ALREADY set up in trinidad years before this sighting in an "unoccupied" island, is it possible it could have been reverse engineered craft? i suppose so, although i would like to presume that there would be additional data to that story such as scambled fighter planes if such a sighting occured near MAJOR military and Naval bases??? and it certainly is not in the folk tales of the locals for the island being a magnet to UFO's when balloons were sent up into the atmosphere for bursting and then raining back to earth by parachute, (in a populated island like trinidad would have been back then i think this sounds and smells like BS. but who am i to question authenticity? at least we all WANT to BELIEVE its no fake. I'll sit on the fence with this one - jury's out!
And the fact that Trinidad has been a populated island for considerably longer than when the american military arrived in the 1940's i doubt such balloon tests occured in 1957/8 in the manner in which the story states, especially when such a high volume of commercial flying was been carried out around this time
Message from Posid - # 1
Galatril through Aurelia Louise Jones
Greetings my beloved brothers and sisters!I am Galatril, third-level member of the Council of Posid, beneath Mato Grotto in the country of Brazil. I have been in this position for many of your lifetimes, and I have spent much of my service reaching out to heal the energies of the past.
Originally posted by chiron613
A much better question is, what reason is there to conclude that ET's are involved in any way with UFO's?
Originally posted by Nohup
This particular site has probably the most detailed examination of the photos available:
The Amazing UFO
This guy has really done a lot of work on the subject. Following the links on the page offers even more research.
This is a quick summary of new work being done on the Trindade Island case. Previous works relevant to what is presented here are:
Martin Powell: homepage.ntlworld.com...
Luis R. Noguez: www.strbrasil.com...
Kentaro Mori: www.strbrasil.com... and www.ceticismoaberto.hpg.ig.com.br...
I was on the deck. My friend Amilar Vieira Filho suddenly called my attention to what he thought to be a ‘big seagull.’ I looked toward it and was unable to control my excitement, shouting: ‘Flying saucer!’ Mr. Barauna was 20 yards away with his Rolleiflex, watching the maneuvers. He heard my shouts and came running—in time to take four pictures of the object. Other people were also alerted by my alarm: a sergeant, sailors, the ship’s dentist (Lieutenant Captain Homero Ribeiro), and other persons. They all sighted the object. The photographer Farias de Azevedo, who was more distant, didn’t come in time to get photos.
The first view was that of a disk shining with a phosphorescent glow, which—even at daylight—appeared to be brighter than the moon. The object was about the apparent size (angular diameter) of the full moon. As it followed its path across the sky, changing to a tilted position, its real shape was clearly outlined against the sky: that of a flattened sphere encircled, at the equator, by a large ring or platform. Its speed was around 700 miles an hour at the moment it disappeared into the horizon.
In a March 3, 1958 memo, the Brazilian Navy would comment on the entire incident. When it came to the negatives, they would state:
Concerning the negatives, they were submitted to examination by the Hydrography and Navigation Department’s technicians and by technicians from the Cruzeiro do Sul erophotgrammetric Service, with the following results:
I—The technician from the Navy’s HND, after examination of the negatives, affirms that they are natural;
II—The technicians from the Cruzeiro do Sul Aerophotogrammetric Service, after microscopic examinations to verify the granulation, analysis of signals, verification of luminosity and details of outlines, affirmed:
There was not any sign of photomontage in the negatives mentioned to, all the evidence indicating they are in fact negatives of an object really photographed
The hypothesis of a photomontage contrived after the sighting is definitely excluded;
It is impossible to prove either the existence or the nonexistence of a previous photomontage, which requires however a high-precision technic and favorable circumstances to its execution. (A.P.R.O.)