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New anti-terror adverts are urging Londoners to look in their neighbours’ dustbins to help the overstretched police unmask the enemy within. Either this is a viable way of catching terrorists or the police and security services are getting desperate.

One advert (pdf) shows a mother with a pushchair in an ordinary-looking suburban street – but look closer. The wheelie bin in front of a house is overflowing with discarded containers of bomb-making equipment. With its catchphrase "Don’t rely on others. If you suspect it, report it", the advert’s message is don’t trust your neighbours: they may be making a bomb in their shed.

It does seem unlikely that bomb-making equipment would be dumped in an open bin, to be discovered by a passing mother. You might think that hardened terrorists would be more careful – or at least leave the empty containers in a neighbour’s bin, not their own. In any case, the poster gives the men of violence a handy reminder of how to avoid detection.

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We're more likely to find terrorists in government-buildings & in their temples, rather than in our neighbor's trash bin. If you want dispose of real influential-terrorists & other threats to society, you must be willing to expose & arrest the same people, who clearly don't want us to have the right to privacy (freedom) & the right to bear arms to defend ourselves against tyrants.

The posters should be trashed along with the terrorists, who had them printed, in the 1st place:



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i can't keep myself from having a fit of laughter...

are they serious? alright more fear mongering lets turn ourselves against one and other, you know that will go over real nice


what utter Bollocks

While I understand the need to report things that look dangerous... isn't telling people to snoop through other peoples trash a little... fascist?


I mean, this has a certain odor reminiscent of the old "report your neighbors" propaganda posters that used to be put up all over Germany and Italy in the world wars.

Then again, those same "turn in your friends" style messages were everywhere back then.

I cringe to think of how many ordinary people were tossed in a cell because their neighbor didn't like them.


Just wait... if this form of paranoia boosting keeps up, average Joes will be turned in for buying regular cleaning goods.

We humans seem to love our witch-hunts.


These posters should really read : "We shouldn't have to tell you what to do... Use your common sense moron".



Edit to add...
Why not pay a visit to the homes of politicians... start rooting through their garbage grabbing receipts etc... make sure you report any and all chemicals. lol.

Wouldn't want one of these "terrorists" to turn out to be in the upper echelons of government. We should start our witch-hunt there.

[edit on 7-4-2009 by johnsky]

This is so funny. And people think 1984 was just a fiction novel.

Honestly, if people fall for this, humanity deserves whatever happens to it. Sorry to say, but come on now.

And really, if someone was making a bomb, I'm sure they would use trash bags to hide it.

Hypothetically, if that was an actual picture, I would think that a government agent put some "POISON XXX" bottles in a dumpster somewhere just to scare people.

Shame for anyone who believes this pile of crap. Hahaha

Originally posted by johnsky
While I understand the need to report things that look dangerous... isn't telling people to snoop through other peoples trash a little... fascist?



[edit on 7-4-2009 by johnsky]

Well, I might be "Parsing Hairs" as they say, but truth be told, the "Mother" in the poster is walking by a completely exposed portion of questionable garbage, so therefore it is in Plain View, and thus she is not "Snooping" if she happens across it in this manner.

I do understand however that this can of course be construed in many separate fashions, and I would not be surprised to find quarreling neighbors suddenly pining to become eachothers "Trash Inspectors".

As for the "Fascist" comment, I do feel that this is a prime example of an overuse and misunderstanding of the term. There are multiple oppressive forms of government, with Fascism not being the sole provider of such tyranny, and therefore you could also equate likewise behavior to Communism as well. The leading governments of modern history which have actually been behind what many on here deem "Fascist", are actually Socialist and Communist organizations.

Anyways, I do not mean to jump upon you with "Corrections" or the like, I simply mean to purvey a point.


I do agree with you on the basis of wondering where we should draw the line however.

I find it strange that the Security Forces feel they have to launch this campaign. It should be beholden on all of us as citizens to keep our eyes open and react to things that just look out of place.

Just how much did this campaign cost?

Potassium Chloride, salt substitute
And Clorox bleach are bomb making materials
and common household chemicals.

Hydrogen Peroxide and Acetone. are common chemicals and bomb making materials.

Flour is a food and a bomb making material.

Most of the people out there have no idea what you can make a bomb from.

How will they tell when trash is bomb making materials.

How stupid is the government.

Or how smart. Now they have a excuse to get a search warrant with no probable cause.

Now the UK government has a reason to get search warrants
because some old bitty told the cops that there were bomb making materials in the trash.

You will start to see a lot of racist a**h**es that don't like the Muslim family in the flat next-door turning them in just to get them evicted.

Im surpised this isnt implemented in this format in America yet
I figured they were going to try to get the mainstream to turn on the conspiracy theorists for terrorism
but getting the mainstream to turn on themselves...well two birds with one stone I guess

The end result awaits:

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FEAR FEAR FEAR HATE HATE HATE

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Most of the people out there have no idea what you can make a bomb from.

How will they tell when trash is bomb making materials.

Exactly.

What's an ordinary housewife going to think when she walks by a trash can full of acetone nail polish remover or fertiliser bags?

"Oh my gosh! Acetone can be oxidised to produce a powerful crystalline powder that explodes very readily. Perhaps it was synthesised from methyl ketone peroxide mixed with acetone? I must report this at once."

There's far more associative positives uses for things like nitrate fertilisers, acetone, bleach, car batteries, then there are negative.

Hence why most people will simply not jump to conclusions when witnessing a trash can with a bottle of nail polish remover and bleach in it.

It's a funny thing called rational thinking.

Not seriously believing anyone who possesses ordinary, household chemicals must be plotting a 9/11-like event.

[edit on 7/4/09 by The Godfather of Conspira]

In itself this may appear harmless and well intentioned but it is just another example of playing on people's fears to help create a feeling of tension and unease and to actively encourage people to seek the withdrawal of their own civil liberties.

Gradually the opportunity to meet and discuss matters of any importance are being limited due to the ongoing programme to shut communal meeting places like pubs / clubs etc.

Our rights to meet and protest are being restricted and manipulated.

We are also being turned into a nation of snaeks and informants who are suspicious of our neighbours every movement and action.
Financial inducements are offered to get us to inform on each other.
This leads to people being suspicious of each other at every level and a reluctance to interact openly.

Where does it end?
The newspaper you read?
The magazine you read?
The 'friend' who visited you?

When Hitler / Stalin etc actively encouraged this sort of behaviour we rightly condemned it.
Here we are allowing it to happen on our own doorsteps.

It's the incredible wording that gets me:

"These chemicals won't be used in a bomb because a neighbour reported the dumped containers to the Anti-Terrorist hotline."

This is sheer genius in itself.

1. The containers aren't dumped, they're disposed of in a bin.

2. The containers are empty, thus implying they have already had their contents utilised.

3. The ad implies that the only possible use of said chemicals is in a bomb. The 'perpetrator' who 'dumped' these can have only ONE thing in mind: blowing people up. There are no if's or but's, its very black and white.

4. It guarentees that a phone call allows the caller to feel completely at ease, despite the fact the chemicals are clearly already gone (in use) and that the neighbour is still there (and presumably plotting to erode our freedoms one-by-one by government decree, since a big coup is non-viable). Until Big Brother comes to pick him up, of course.

Utterly farcical.

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Someones having a laugh.

What if your neighbour is putting this stuff in your bin then reporting it?



Really stupid ideas for fear mongering yet again. Schoolboys could do better.

Im calling just in case....my neighbours got some Domestos in his bin mixed with used nappies! Innocent? Think again!

A stink bomb!



[edit on 7-4-2009 by XXXN3O]

This is a really great idea.

Let's spy on our neighbours and then during the night go through their rubbish bins to see if they are making bombs, or if we pass the open bins in the streets quickly look in and see if you can spot any bomb making materials in there.

Oh hang on a second, how am I supposed to know what you can make a bomb from? Am I going to get trained by the Policy Farce as to what household chemicals a bomb can be made from.?

Or shall I look it up on the net?

Second thoughts I don't fancy doing any of that because if I try to look up the information online then I myself could be labelled a terrorist and arrested, or if I go through my neighbours bins I could be labelled a stalker and arrested. Or if I spot an open bin with 'dubious' chemical containers in full view I could be labelled a privacy snooper and arrested.

Tell you what I won't do any of that after all thats what we have an Intelligence community and the Policy Farce for isn't it?

I will do it if I can get the wages added for both to my normal day job and get paid 3 times for doing my work and 'keeping an eye' on my neighbours.

Just one more nail in the coffin of freedom.
A few years ago, while traveling the "beltway" freeway system near Washington/Baltimore I was really taken aback by the electronic overhead signs that admonished people of their duty to report any suspicious behavior - and gave the phone number to call. These signs repeated over and over again as you traveled the roadway.
That was creepy, but then again it was following 9-11 so I sort of gave it a pass.
Unfortunately this trend has continued unabated. It seems there isn't a day that goes by without another draconian measure by governments and police to seal our fates as isolated, paranoid slaves.

And all you in England have done about this is whine on line. If they try and do this in my town here in Canada - I can't imagine that it would go down without a real fight from the people.

Crazy Crazy and Crazy!! Imagine how many cops in London are gona have to go "check out" garbage bins because some little old lady thinks her neighbour is a terrorist. I would say to the good people of London to be very nice to the people who work and live around you. Hey! something good might come out of this after all.

Why doesn't everyone in the UK start wearing clown outfits and be done with it.

Why is there no voice of reason or sense of balance in that country

Ah, you've got to love the government haven't you? They don't miss a trick. What next, print leaflets inviting neighbours to peer in through your curtains to make sure you're not making a bomb? How about instructions in how to correctly place a glass against the wall so you can hear what your neighbours are discussing. .. Or how about giving all our tax money to wealthy bankers while at the same time making everyone unemployed so when times get hard we all start turning on one another! Oh, hang on a minute, they've already done that one.

As if this is something new. Ha. Doesn't anyone remember this? Operation TIPS?

www.alternet.org...

Come on people, it was just 7 short years ago!

Bush? Ashcroft? Ring any bells? And it's also happened lots of times before in history.



[edit on 7-4-2009 by ~Lucidity]