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Originally posted by Boxygirl
I think you left a very importiant piece of info out of your "proof". Have you seen fire in the sky (the movie) you cannot make that crap up.
THE MYSTERY SATELLITES
"Mysterious satellites" were officially reported six times in orbit around the Earth in the 1950s before the first Sputnik of October 4, 1957. Clyde Tombough, the discoverer of Pluto over 20 years before, studied two moonlets in orbit in 1954.
The radar detections were: April 1949, first reported by Naval Commander Robert McLaughlin, a rocket expert; 1953: one in a near-equitorial orbit 400-to-600 miles out, and the two at Lagrange Points, then calling the satellites "Toro moonlets"; 1954, an "Aviation Week" report ("Satellite Scare," Aug. 23, 1954) told of Dr. Lincoln La Paz (a government expert on meteors) announcement of a satellites orbiting at 400 and 600 miles out; a search by the Adler Planetarium in Chicago tracked one or two of these "moonlets"; in 1957, three months before the USSR launched the first Earth satellite in October, Italian astronomers tracked a large mystery satellite, also reported in the news, like the others had been.
Even in the Space Age, an unknown satellite, tracked by the Navy's Space Survelienance Radar and photograped by Grumman Aircraft Company's tracking camera, was seen in retrograde orbit from late 1959 to mid-1960, travelling east to west direction at a speed of 25,000 mph, the required velocity for such a satellite (none of this nature have been launched from Earth). "The U.S, is trying hard to unravel a mystery which involved everybody in the world. A satellitte, clearly spotted on radar, was circling the Earth, but no one claimed it... It travels westwardly, whereas other satellites are launched eastwardly to take advantage of the Earth's spin." [LIFE Magazine, February 22, 1960.]
Having read and heard about this in the news and on TV, I, then a boy, and friends witnessed the strange satellite during one of its predicted passages over the New York metro area, moving much faster than any other satellite, such as Echo I visible that August. The strange satellite, giving off a bright red color, was an impressive, unforgettable sight! After a few weeks in orbit, it, like the "mystery satellites" of the early 1950s, vanished from orbit, suggesting that it disintegrated or was removed somehow from orbit. Were these media-reported "mystery satellites" ETI space probes? We simply don't know. And they've been largely, even conviently perhaps, forgotten. Other unknown satellites have been tracked since the early days of satellites until now by the U.S. Space Command and NORAD, as reported in former New York Times reporter Howard Blum's book, "Out There" in 1989, and most or all could be secret satellites orbited for military purposes by Earth nations... or maybe not?
Today there are two or more science websites devoted to the search for ETI space probes, SETV [the Search for Extra-Terrestrial Vehicles) and Scott Stride's Intellerstellar Probes, and the Open SETI research website also looks into the issue (on links below).
Originally posted by Skinon
Well i for one dont need to see anymore evidence, i made up my mind a long time ago about the existence of aliens. It seems pretty blantently obvious to me that life is out there, and to think that we are the only intelligent lifeforms in the universe is ignorant and stupid reallly.
I believe most people who definatley dont believe do so because it conflicts with there current beliefs especially about religion, the same type of person who couldnt grasp the fact of infinity and when they talk about being 'logical' well im sorry but the most logical thing is that there are advanced and less advanced alien races out there. In fact it would be highly illogical to think otherwise.
So maybe we should stop trying to convince people who really deep down dont want to believe it anyway, I mean who really cares if they want to remain in the dark? you could show them a alien being and make them shake its hand then they still would try to debunk it in someway. I think if the evidence thats out there already doesnt confirm it then not alot else will to these people, let them wallow in the darkness its just wasted energy used to try to tell a chicken its a frog. By the way awesome post OP and that starmap is further proof to reinforce my beliefs (not that i even needed it)
Originally posted by Raider of Truth
reply to post by jkrog08
best Alien post i have read in a longgggg time
that discovery message was WOW! S+F for you
i look forward to the day when a mass visitation/arrival/landing will happen and it will be soon i just feel something isnt right anymore..something great is coming
Nazca Lines: Examined
Stones (not sand) comprise the desert surface. Rusted by humidity, their darkened color increases heat absorption. The resulting cushion of warm surface air acts as a buffer against the wind; while minerals in the soil help to solidify the stones. On the "desert pavement" thus created in this dry, rainless environment, erosion is practically nil - making for remarkable preservation of the markings. News of the enigmatic Nazca lines became public knowledge in the late 1930s, at about the same time that air travel had begun opening new horizons to people everywhere.
to be discovered by astronomers in exact detail as the abductee(who had no knowledge of astronomy,and even if she did this system was not yet known)who drew it
The audio clip was released to the UFO community by Donald Ratsch (see the July 1989 issue of the MUFON Journal). Ratsch stated that he recorded the relevant audio via his audio scanner "from the space shuttle Discovery through WA3NAN, the club station of the Goddard Amateur Radio Club at Greenbelt, Md, transmitting on 147.450 MHZ" and something else I think, but i could be wrong, anyway:
Ratsch has subsequently stated that he heard the same voice saying something similar a year later. Odd. Thus, Ratsch concluded that "the target voice was a hoax probably from an amateur radio operator".
In other words, the person that recorded the audio clip does NOT believe that it was the voice of an astronaut or a transmission from a shuttle mission.
Instead, he believes that it is a hoax.