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Originally posted by mikerussellus
Until someone can correlate what I've "heard" since I've been in the military then I would have to remain a sceptic.
Good posts though, rather thought provoking.
Originally posted by Gawdzilla
Originally posted by Exuberant1
Originally posted by Gawdzilla
As for von Daniken, please try to convince me you haven't read "Ancient Astronauts" or one of its clones.
Why would you want me to prove a negative?
*Since we are now using your logic, please try to convince me that earth was not visited by an intelligent species that did not evolve one earth ;-)
(That would be far more on-topic - though I do not expect you to attempt it)
Have you bothered to read any of Von Daniken's more recent books?
If so, which ones and what year were they first published?
Most people are only familiar with his older works, which Von Daniken admits contain flaws - flaws which are addressed and corrected in his newer books.
(This is why debunkers prefer use his older work as this allows them to ignore the retractions and updates made in his newer material. Poor form, predictably)
I won't try to prove your thesis for you. Nobody ever has and I have to watch my grass growing (we all have our priorities.)
As for von Daniken, it's been proven in court that he's a liar and a embezzler. Convicted at least twice IIRC. Why people would put their faith in a man that is an established liar is really amazing to me.
His books are fashionably correct and the newer ones are simply lies with a fresh coat of whitewash.
Originally posted by zazzafrazz
They're just clouds
However the Nuremberg testimony is really interesting.
The testimony is a very good account of UFO activity. It also is describing aerial phenomena by someone who doesn't understand it.
The archaeologist in me ( I no longer work in the field) wanders if anyone has gone to the site and done any radiation readings or looked for wreckage or scorching in the layers of earth from that time etc. It looks like they describe a German Roswell.... A crashed craft after a Dogfight.
!) Crash did take place
3) remnants of whatever crashed may still be there under the surface.
That account is actually someone drawing a map.....
[edit on 10-4-2009 by zazzafrazz]
Originally posted by dragonridr
reply to post by Exuberant1
Japan was an isolationist society this is a story of a woman who was found by sailors. They describe the ship as being made of wood and iron, Oh i dont know a boat. They describe a woman in her 20s with fair skin and red hair, hmmm maybe a European woman. She was clutching a wooden box that seemed important to her probably her papers letters etc that would be important if she found herself all alone with people that didnt speak her language. Stories like these were common among the Japanese every time a foreigner stepped on there shores.
[edit on 4/10/09 by dragonridr]
Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by ArMaP
Black puffs of smoke? We've seen a lot of fireworks so something like that wouldn't impress us much but for someone who had never seen anything like it, it would be a different story. Anything "new" in the sky becomes a very big deal. Particularly under a heavily religious influence.
Originally posted by nablator
- Cave paintings and lines prove that ancient peoples had an interesting culture.
- Betty Hill's map could as well be a map of planets in the solar system or other stars.
- Discovery transmission is a hoax according to the person that recorded the audio clip. Posted by Isaac Koi here:
No proof as usual. Not even good evidence.
Perhaps that's true for some ancient art of light balls, however, with others, I think I can guess what they are:
Originally posted by sverrio
Theese light ball UFO's have basicly been proven to exsist. What they are we don't know.