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reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 08:23 PM by sy.gunson
Avril Harriman's papers refer to the meeting at Stockholm at end of October 1944 between Abwher agent Edgar Klaus and Soviet Legation member in a private residence outside Stockholm to hear proposal for separate peace between Russia and Germany.

As for miniature nuclear weapons the ONI document "German Technical Aid to Japan: a Summary" dated June 15 1945 is in the Library at Fort Mead....

As for the ability to create miniature nuclear weapons the concept was described in some detail in a series of wartime patents by Schumann & Trinks which USA copied in the 1950s to create tactical nukes.

You can take a small pellet of fissile Uranium or Plutonium the size of a pea, coat it with a wafer thin coating of Scandium Trittide and then all one has to do is beam a low power dentists X-ray machine at it to cause a nuclear blast the size of ten city blocks.

The Germans knew about this concept and developed Uranium 233 coated with Lithium Deuteride to achieve much the same effect. The colision of Lithium-6 and deuterium under huge pressure (caused by placing it at the heart of a chemical explosive implosion) and high temperatures (again caused by implosion) causes a Deuteron beam emission of neutrons.

The huge flux of neutrons caused by this release imitates the effect of critical mass through highly localised neutron density. The Nazis understood this in 1942.

Thus whilst the Americans laboured long and hard to produce 64 kilograms of HEU for one bomb, the Nazis realised that by a different method they could achieve a nuclear weapon with only 150 grams of U233.
edit on 15-11-2012 by sy.gunson because: correcting spelling error



reply posted on 15-11-2012 @ 08:35 PM by AnAbsoluteCreation
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Maybe you are referring to tri·ti·um?

That is a atomic isotope so I assume this is it. Never mind if thats the case.

AAC


reply posted on 16-11-2012 @ 05:11 PM by sy.gunson
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Hydride of Trittium

According to wartime patent applications by Schumann & Trinks in 1943 German Army Ordnance (Heereswaffenamt) used Lithium-6 Deuteride to coat Uranium 233.

Modern miniature nuclear weapons however replicate the method with a hydride of Scandium and Trittium.


reply posted on 16-11-2012 @ 06:28 PM by sy.gunson
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A "few " problems with that list.... The He-277 was never even flown, and was abandoned


Orders were placed in May 1943. Actually six He-177 A-6 aircraft were converted to He-277 B-5/R2 standard (four 1,750hp DB603G engines) by Reichlin as pre-production prototypes and at least three were known to have flown. Early in conception the He-277 was known as the He-177 A-8.

The He-274 built at Toulouse France was a different but externally similar aircraft with longer span wings for transatlantic bombing missions. This was also designated the He-177 A4.

The He-277 V2 prototype was flown at Vienna-Schwechat 28 February 1944. Mass production was about to start and a large mass of parts were already held when production was cancelled due to the Emergency Fighter Program of 3 July 1944, however Reichlin had eight completed He-277 airframes by this time.

Completed airframes were alocated the following Stammekenzeichen (Stkz) codes:

Prototype Aircraft V-101: NN+QQ (destroyed March 45 Cheb)
Prototype Aircraft V-102: GA+QQ (flown Schwechat Feb 1944)
Prototype Aircraft V-103: NE+OD
Prototype Aircraft V-104: KM+TL (captured Prague Rusnye)

Production aircraft No,A-07: GA+QP
Production aircraft No,A-12: GA+QU
Production aircraft No,A-13: GA+QV
Production aircraft No,A-14: GA+QW
Production aircraft No,A-17 GA+QZ

Stkz codes were only allocated to completed and flying airrframes. Werke numbers were allocated to airframes under construction and Stkz were applied when they joined units or were flown.



The Germans did not have tactical nukes no V2 was ever fired from a lafferenz capsule


I make no claim that the V-2 was fired from a Lafferentz capsule. A 500 ton Lafferentz capsule was trialed behind a U-boat in the Baltic. The Germans realised that the use of Hydrogen Peroxide over such a long voyage was unsatisfactory therefore embarked on development of the A8 version of the V-2 rocket for the capsule using Diesel fuel with Nitric acid to overcome these issues, however that then required a bigger capsule. Three larger capsules were built at Stettin shipyard, but were captured by the Red Army in 1945.

PRO file WO.208/4178 refers to transcripts of secretly recorded conversations by Major General Walter Dornberger during his internment by the British at CSDIC camp 11 where hidden microphones detected his conversations. At Nuremberg the British attempted to prosecute him for War Crimes by citing these recordings and thus the file is found in Nuremberg evidence. In that Dornberger refers to German efforts to arm the V-2 with a nuclear warhead.

Edgar Mayer and Thomas Mehner, Hitler und die ,,Bombe" (Rottenburg: Kopp Verlag, 2002), pp. 110-114, cite the now declassified MAGIC decrypt of a signal from Japan's wartime embassy in Stockholm to Tokyo, in which the writer described a German Uranium "atom smashing" weapon of devastating power which weighed just 5 kilograms: "Stockholm to Tokyo, No. 232.9 December 1944 (War Department), National Archives, RG 457, declassified October 1, 1978.

The Office of Naval Intelligence issued a report before the war with Japan was over citing evidence that Germany had transferred technology in 1944 for a small "atom smashing" bomb, entitled "German Technical Aid to Japan: a Survey" dated June 15 1945.





There was no "Mistel Ar-234", the Mistel programme did not involve the Ar-234, and also the Ar-234 did not have internal stowage of bombs...


Allied intelligence reports refer to such a unit Fernkampfflugzeuge 76 aka Kommando Lukesch. Reports from 6 Oct 44 that Arado Ar 234 jet bombers assembled at Kupper bei Sagan, Silesia (codenamed Reichlin 46) Jan 1945 identity confirmed. Activity from Sept 44.

I make no mention of internal bomb stowage: You do.

Given the Japanese refer to a a nuclear weapon with 5 kilogram warhead reported in the Stockholm signal of 12 December 1944, stowage on external bomb racks was perfectly feasible. The aircraft itself was originally conceived as a fast bomber. The Do-217P whilst it had a large bomb bay was capable of dropping large radio guided bombs from 53,000 feet hung from external racks. The He-177 also used external racks therefore the use of external racks does not disqualify the Ar234C being used as a bomber.


...and again Germany did not have nuclear bombs.


Your opinion only.


reply posted on 16-11-2012 @ 06:39 PM by sy.gunson
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If you have never heard of Scandium Tritide then perhaps you need to learn more about nuclear weapons or chemistry. Here's a good place for beginners like you to start:

Elements of Fission Weapon Design
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