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Originally posted by DJMessiah
Originally posted by neo67
dude dO NOT try to make it appear that lebanese,palistinians, and gaza residents were sitting down on their sofas watching tv just minding their own business and the so called evil isreal woke up one day and said hey lets go kill a bunch of people they reacted from being attacked.
Strawman argument. Show me where I said any of that.
"So called evil israel." Did I call it "evil israel," if not then why say I did?
The fact of the matter is that the Palestinians are in a prison system. The prison walls keeps them locked into their towns, Israel imposes curfews on them, Israel shuts down their water supply and electricity to punish them, Israel holds check points in every town to keep Palestinians from fleeing.
When Israel invaded Lebanon and Gaza, they trapped the civilians in there. In Lebanon, they bombed the bridges, airports, highways, before they invaded and then they dropped fliers telling people to leave. How were those people supposed to leave when Israel cut off any means of escape? It was a cruel joke the Israeli goverment played on the Lebanese, just like someone barricading all means of an exit to a room and then setting the room on fire, and then telling people to escape.
dont get me wrong here i dont condone alot of what both sides have done when there are other ways to resolve conflicts.
Both sides are at fault for taking the wrong approach, but there's one side that keeps building on the land of the other and keeps adding fuel to the fire.
isreal has a right to exist every nation has the right to exist but
if its a government of "hate" then it should not
If they're not a goverment of hate, then why are all their leaders still oppressing other nations? Why do they look down upon the neighboring Arabs and claim that they should all be "driven to the sea"? Why have they intentionally mislead the US goverment to start a war with Iran?
Originally posted by star in a jar
reply to post by neo67
This is not about the Holocaust, this is about Israel trying to drag America in front of her when she goes to war with Iran.
Iran will be needing alternative energy sources in the future, when her gasoline supplies either runs out, or becomes obsolete.
They don't have nuclear power... who will help them power their infrastructure? Nobody! Yeah, nobody!
Originally posted by neo67
Originally posted by branty
reply to post by neo67
Why do you say that, the only country to ever use a nuke was........(drum roll)..... the good ole USA
by an administration over 60 years ago to save lives for a japanese invasion-save lives on both sides. i wish the nuke wasnt used yes
Originally posted by Terapin
reply to post by neo67
Gee, can you show me ONE nation that has successfully moved to all solar and wind? I can't think of any. Does your nation use any Nuclear power? If so, then why can't another nation?
Originally posted by Terapin
reply to post by neo67
Never said it was clean, cheap, or even a good idea. Thing is though... it is their choice. If Iran wants to sell it's oil and use nuclear for electricity, then let them. Insisting that Iran do something that no one else has ever done,(go 100% green with Solar, wind, etc) is a bit much. The technology is not up to scale and still under development. It is one thing to power a farm, or partially power a town. It is another thing all together to power an entire nation. How does solar power work at night? Iran IS increasing their Hydro power, but there are limits on how much they can ever generate that way. Iran does have wind farms and are adding more. According to one source, Iran is the sole center producing wind turbines in the Middle East. Iran is also exploring Geothermal generation and has a plant scheduled to come online at the end of this year. Even with all of that, it wont meet demands by a long shot. They have chosen Nuclear generation as a vaible alternative, as have many nations.
There are plenty of Jews living in Iran, and Iran is not trying to start a war against Israel. It is Israel pushing for war against Iran, based on the lie of nuclear weapons.
People talk about Mutually Assured Destruction. Lets say Iran eventually does build a nuke in the future. Iran well knows that if they launch it, Israel will fire back hundreds in retaliation. Détente. No one fires cause they know they will not survive. Much like the case with India and Pakistan.
Israel needs to end the rhetoric and work towards peace, not war.