Can Obama be impeached for sheer incompetence?, page 1
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reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 05:17 PM by intrepid
Originally posted by jsobecky
Can a president be impeached for sheer incompetence? If so, Obama should be impeached at the end of his 100 day 'honeymoon'.


Probably not. If that had been the case we would have had 2 impeachments in the last 12 years.

Today marks Day 50 of his administration. In that short period of time, he has managed to commit almost a blunder a day. If he were to receive a mid-term grade, it would be a solid F.


Isn't that a little early? Wouldn't a mid term be about Jan. 2011?

Some of his more egregious blunders:

During the first month of his administration, he spent more than Bush did on two wars, and Katrina relief and rebuilding.


Wouldn't you say that past administrative actions lead to this inevitability?

He has committed diplomatic blunders with UK PM Gordon Brown


Some see it as a blunder, some as him concentrating on serious domestic issues.

He has proposed taxes that will cause an inflationary spiral, when imposed

He has committed to an assault weapon ban


Links please.

He has targeted private citizens for disagreeing with his policies


Rush is far from a "private citizen".

He has broken campaign promises on hiring lobbyists

He has broken campaign promises on stopping partisanship


No surprise there. All politicians do that.

*snip*

He has proposed sitting down with the Taliban


Well bullets don't work. Ask the Soviets.

He wants to plunge this nation into a socialist economy.


That's just fear mongering imo.

He is losing support from the electorate every day. Even his loudest supporters are abandoning him. It won't be long before the Democratic Congress turns against him, as the 2010 elections approach.


As predicted. He came in at the lowest point in GOP history imo. Of course his #'s were going to drop. Congress turning against him? Unlikely.


reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 05:25 PM by Benevolent Heretic
I see you have no sources whatsoever at all for these ridiculous allegations, but I just wanted to let people know about the disinfo and outright lies that the Republican party is spreading about the Employee Free Choice Act. Then you can carry on with your Bash Obama thread.

Good luck getting him impeached.

Originally posted by jsobecky
He has supported the Card Check bill, which eliminates the secret ballot in union votes


Not True.

Key Facts about EFCA


Corporate front groups have mounted a massive campaign to block the Employee Free Choice Act. ... The core of their campaign is lies and distortions about the Employee Free Choice Act—especially the lie that it takes away “secret ballot” elections. In fact, the act would let workers choose whether to decide on a union through majority sign-up or an election.


It's all about choice. But see, the corporate big wigs don't want their employees to have so much power (to form a union) so they're making it look like they have sympathy with the workers. That right there should be a giveaway.



reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 05:45 PM by jfj123
reply to post by jsobecky



I doubt it.
I precident has already been set with bush. He was the most incompetent most corrupt president in US history and he wasn't impeached so I doubt obama could be.


reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 05:55 PM by jfj123
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
I love how you lib asks for facts, just as an excuse.

OK I'm not a liberal but I just had to post based on the above response.
Asking for facts is an excuse????
Seriously, you may want to edit that out of your post.
The only reason this thread should be taken seriously is IF the OP posted facts.

When presented with facts, you either outright disregard them as false, or ignore them completely because it doesnt jive with what you subscribe to.

See that's the nice thing about facts. You can't say they aren't facts if they are facts

Im happy, im glad you have all the people in office that you do. Im glad obama is president, and hes got hillary and pelosi, i love it. Because when this whole thing goes down, you wont have anyone to blame but yourselves, oh ,but youll try......

Are you aware of what was going on with the US economy over the last few years of the bush administration which caused the situation we're in now? Basically it's like blaming the guy who's bailing the water out of the sinking raft, for not bailing fast enough or the right way after someone else put the hole in the raft.

P.S Ive been reading alot of NY times, CNN, Fox News, there seems to be a lot of buyers remorse all the way around for voting for this guy, pretty telling.

Deny Ignorance indeed

Really? Do you have any links?
The only people that seem to be having remorse or those who didn't want him as president such as the racist, drug addict, rush limbough. I'm not sure who gave limbough a podium to speak from but the only podium he's qualified to speak from is at the McDonald's drive through.


reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 05:56 PM by jsobecky
reply to post by intrepid



Originally posted by intrepid
One could argue that opinion draped as fact because it's something that YOU "subscribe to" is ignorance as well. Btw, why are you throwing around labels? In my case you would be wrong. I'm conservative and, wait for it........... NOT AMERICAN. I can read and make up my mind on issues though. You should try it sometime. It's liberating. Really!!!


That is true, Intrepid. You do look upon our issues with objectivity.

However, I'd bet that if we US citizens were discussing Canadian politics, it would be much easier to be objective and not get emotionally involved in, since it wouldn't affect us directly.


reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 05:58 PM by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by intrepid



actually they ARE facts, like i said read a newspaper, watch the news. And LIBS isnt a label, liberals are exactly that. Im conservative, its not a label its what i am.

It has nothing to do with subscribing to anything, I read, I watch. I decide for myself, just like I spent days pouring over this stimulus package, to see what was in it. Im willing to bet many of his great defenders did no such thing or they would be just as upset as his former supporters.

So Mr.Moderator, dont accuse me of anything but stating what is! Have a fantastic day guys.



reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 06:01 PM by ManBehindTheMask
reply to post by jfj123



In reply ill make it short. Im not going to waste my time putting up links to the facts that are easily googled.

Im very aware of whats going on in the economy and im also very aware that the Mr.Obama has made it alot worse than it was.....you dont have to believe anything i say, or report, or any of the facts. Just wait, it will all become clear really soon.

Try doing some research bud, everything the OP posted is true, even the liberal media is reporting it.


reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 06:08 PM by jfj123
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
reply to
post by jfj123



In reply ill make it short. Im not going to waste my time putting up links to the facts that are easily googled.

Then obviously you're not interested in discussing those facts here on this thread.

Im very aware of whats going on in the economy and im also very aware that the Mr.Obama has made it alot worse than it was.....you dont have to believe anything i say, or report, or any of the facts. Just wait, it will all become clear really soon.

I might believe you if you posted something more then your opinion.

Try doing some research bud,

Try participating in the thread, "BUD" by backing up your statements. The only reason I can think that you may not want to back up your statements is that you're only interested obama bashing.

everything the OP posted is true, even the liberal media is reporting it.

But we have no way of knowing his posts are true unless we decide to do the research for the OP.


reply posted on 10-3-2009 @ 06:09 PM by The Lass
reply to post by jsobecky



It's easy being pedantic from thousands of miles away ... like me ... but your President has to be both impeached by the House of Representatives and convicted by the Senate on a charge of bribery, treason or other high crimes & misdemeanours before he can be removed from office.

And with strong Democrat representation in both Houses, the chances of him being tossed out of office because of incompetence are, at best, remote.
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