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Originally posted by Paul_Richard
However, the methods you suggest for spiritual growth that are on the site you referenced, although good, are only basic in nature.
Originally posted by Tayesin
Hi,
Yes they are basic, simple and easy to do for most people.
They are basic because they are a starting point for awakening to your higher-self, the Teacher within. Once connected in awareness the rest comes as you are ready for it.
Most of what I've seen and experienced in the awakening field has been unecessary, provides little reward and have been far too complex. I discovered for myself that the simplest means are the most effective for the largest number of people.
Thanks for the link to find the Heart Radiance Process you spoke about. You know this comes as a natural part of evolving in higher awareness, but, I disagree that it is for the evolution of our Soul, which I see as perfect already.
The process of extending/radiating energy outwards is very natural for us all, only some do as you write and do it willfully with the Intent of Love. It is part of what I share in face to face sessions with people and I love to see them shining as they do it.
Inside the heart chakra you will also find a deep well of golden light, it is the greatest tool in our arsenal, for want of better words to describe that. Most people are not aware of it in themselves, but it is there all the same, ready for us to share it in the world.
This golden light is wonderful to use with negatively tending beings, whether they are humans or other. By applying it directly to their own heart chakra we instigate their healing process, so they leave us alone as they did not want it. Doesn;t matter what they do after that, the healing has begun and it will find it's own level no matter what they may choose.
Thank you for sharing with us.
Be well
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
A common belief within New Age is that all souls are inherently perfect and that only greater awareness is required, not spiritual development.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Souls in fact are not inherently "perfect," spiritual growth is all a matter of degree, and spiritual development entails a lot more than just expanding one's awareness. It means improving upon the core essence of spiritual evolution: the ability to love genuinely and deeply. That is exactly what Heart Chakra Radiance (HCR) targets and it does so better than any other technique or process, as we experimentally have come to know, in having tested and compared the others to HCR over the years.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
In the discarnate dimensions, as with the physical spectrum of color, that which is closest to white is not yellow, violet, or golden in color, but sky blue
Moreover, when near-death experiencers talk about The Light, it usually is in reference to an intense white light, not a golden light
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
The golden light you speak of reflects the power of angels in collectives or yellow-energy angels in Group Entities. The power of angels en masse has never been enough to overcome societal ills. They couldn't stop 9-11 from happening, they couldn't stop the Black Plaque, they couldn't prevent any major war in the Twentieth Century from occurring, they couldn't prevent the Holocaust, and they currently cannot overcome international terrorism, Reticulan subjugation and abduction abuse (like their long-term breeding program), the AIDS epidemic, global warming, or any of the other major problems that we face on this planet today.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Aligning oneself with the golden light is essentially aligning oneself with angelic energies on the fourth plane - in the traditional seven plane paradigm found in various philosophies and religions around the world. It is the traditional approach of basic spiritual unity to provide a solution.
Unfortunately, the traditional approach has failed miserably.
We must therefore evolve beyond the angels and that affiliation, and become Co-Creators in The Light (intense white light that is) after we leave our bodies. Heart Chakra Radiance (HCR) - which was not invented but discovered and handed down to us - is the best way to do precisely that.
Originally posted by Tayesin
Hi Paul,
Thank you for this discussion, it is immensely enjoyable for me.
Originally posted by Tayesin
I certainly think HCR is a valid tool for experience, as a further step in our awakening through experience of the higher-self.
Originally posted by Tayesin
To me, spiritual growth is part of awakening to higher awareness in that they go hand in hand. The ability to love unconditionally is within each of us already and it is a choice thing for each person to employ and experience, which is where HCR is so very helpful for those learning how to expand, feel everything within that expansion as interconnectedness in a loving, energetic manner.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
In the discarnate dimensions, as with the physical spectrum of color, that which is closest to white is not yellow, violet, or golden in color, but sky blue
Moreover, when near-death experiencers talk about The Light, it usually is in reference to an intense white light, not a golden light
Originally posted by Tayesin
I completely agree with this Paul, having been into the Light by choice on regular occasions over the past 40+ years. Part of my work is in taking discarnates into the Light when they are ready to wake-up. As an aside Paul, we reach a place I call the arrival Zone, which is situated at the highest astral level Monroe called Focus 27. It is also where you will find the Akashic Record, where many people go when astral to commune with guidance, etc.
You will also find that you can raise in awareness beyond the confined Astral Realms into what I call the Soul Level awareness layers.. which themselves have a boundary which leads to another higher level of awareness I call Oversoul awareness layers... it just keeps going, how beautiful is that bigger picture?
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
The golden light you speak of reflects the power of angels in collectives or yellow-energy angels in Group Entities. The power of angels en masse has never been enough to overcome societal ills. They couldn't stop 9-11 from happening, they couldn't stop the Black Plaque, they couldn't prevent any major war in the Twentieth Century from occurring, they couldn't prevent the Holocaust, and they currently cannot overcome international terrorism, Reticulan subjugation and abduction abuse (like their long-term breeding program), the AIDS epidemic, global warming, or any of the other major problems that we face on this planet today.
Originally posted by Tayesin
The 'angels', a very misunderstood type being, cannot do a thing for us here in the physical as that would go against the mechanics and agreements for this created experience world and it's supporting stages. It is WE who have all the power to make change here in this 3D, based on our co-creating contracts/agreements. So we cannot expect anyone else to save us, we must save us, we are the One's we have been waiting for.
Originally posted by Tayesin
The Visitors you mention are simply souls choosing different experiences and we have agreements with them too, which is why people are taken in order to fulfill those contracts made at soul level awareness. As such, abduction is a misnomer, it smacks of the Victim Mindset which is a Belief made purely from the confined human-awareness perception.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Aligning oneself with the golden light is essentially aligning oneself with angelic energies on the fourth plane - in the traditional seven plane paradigm found in various philosophies and religions around the world. It is the traditional approach of basic spiritual unity to provide a solution.
Unfortunately, the traditional approach has failed miserably.
We must therefore evolve beyond the angels and that affiliation, and become Co-Creators in The Light (intense white light that is) after we leave our bodies. Heart Chakra Radiance (HCR) - which was not invented but discovered and handed down to us - is the best way to do precisely that.
Originally posted by Tayesin
We are already in the 4th vibratory level of awareness as we transit to the 5th, it is a raising that has been occuring for many years already. Perhaps being in the 4th now is why so many people are seeking Angelic assistance instead of using what is already within themselves? So very human that is, to seek everything outside of ourselves.
Originally posted by Tayesin
I agree whole-heartedly that we need to 'evolve' our awareness beyond such a confined vibration and perception. We are heading towards not needing Beliefs, external hopes for assistance, and are discovering as you say that we are Powerful, and we can do this ourselves. In fact, it is a part of the incarnation cycles that we don't just gain the ticket "home" but rather remain and BE the Awake, Aware Beings that we really are, to create and manifest at will aligned with the greater good.
Originally posted by Tayesin
Harking back to the Golden Light within Paul. I do not make claim that it is more powerful than White Light, which by the way has within it all the colours, as you know. Each colour within White Light has aspects and specific vibrational energies which also therefore have very specific uses.
Originally posted by Tayesin
I use the Golden Light to begin healing negative-choosing entities and humans who are waivering in darkness. I also teach what is called the Middle Pillar method from ancient Hebrew times, which is a process of bringing the intense White Light in through the crown chakra to fill us up and radiate outwards as a natural process of sharing.
Originally posted by Harman
Hm, lets set up a HCR religion. .
Originally posted by Harman
It is quite a sales pitch you have there paul_richards though it may be just me but i would say that diversifying the methods will create the strongest 'defence' against [whatever].
Originally posted by Harman
Tayesin has another way and has his own proof of functioning (for himself).
Originally posted by Harman
HCR almost looks like a blunt instrument to astrally shoot someone through the astral head.
Originally posted by Harman
Anyway, it may or it may not work, just the way it is pushed doesn't sit right with me, even though it does sound interesting of course.
Originally posted by mastermind77
Our spiritual leader is earth, our journey is the leader. Our path along the journey determines outcomes, thats all anyone needs to know..now go be free.
Originally posted by Annee
My spiritual leader is me - I AM my thoughts - thought creates.
I am solely responsible for my ripple in the pond and how it affects the whole.
I vote for Guidance - rather then leader.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Originally posted by Harman
Hm, lets set up a HCR religion. .
How about we first learn about and try HCR and not start any religious organization at all
Originally posted by Harman
It is quite a sales pitch you have there paul_richards though it may be just me but i would say that diversifying the methods will create the strongest 'defence' against [whatever].
Originally posted by Harman
Tayesin has another way and has his own proof of functioning (for himself).
The traditional approach of angel magick is like a horse and buggy in energy levels. The innovative approach of HCR potentially grants the equivalent of a nuclear power planet for each highly evolved soul in The Light. Quite a difference but only for those who have the spiritual discipline to use it regularly and correctly.
Originally posted by Harman
HCR almost looks like a blunt instrument to astrally shoot someone through the astral head.
Originally posted by Harman
Anyway, it may or it may not work, just the way it is pushed doesn't sit right with me, even though it does sound interesting of course.
Originally posted by Harman
...it seems that when i go about the Chakra meditation i am strengthening myself already without the help of some kind of spirit that could choose at a whim to cut me off. I mean, i have done it a few times with result, to be honest i'm really bad at repetitive things like daily meditation so i drop out of it regularly. Is that what you mean? Because when i do any meditation i'm working to get my defenses up only i would work on all the chakra's from bottom upwards, you need a strong base to build your pyramid on.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
The traditional approach of angel magick is like a horse and buggy in energy levels. The innovative approach of HCR potentially grants the equivalent of a nuclear power planet for each highly evolved soul in The Light. Quite a difference but only for those who have the spiritual discipline to use it regularly and correctly.
Originally posted by Harman
Oh agreed on the guide granting you 'second hand' power thing. But HCR is not the only stick in the box to get your own way of generating this kind of light.
Originally posted by Harman
And everybody has to start somewhere, why should we not start with the help and channeled light of guides/angels until the moment that we are able to let go of the helping hand.
Originally posted by Harman
Just like little babies trying to walk, first the parents will hold on to the little one taking stumbling steps without any balans, later on it can walk without support and have it's own balans. Growth spiritually works the same way. I would like to learn to walk instead of taking of sprinting with the risk of slamming into some unforseen wall.
Originally posted by Harman
So again, agreeing on 'being you own light' just the way to that point may differ. It could be that before trying HCR some experience in the field of esoterics is wise to have.
Originally posted by Harman
I'm willing to take whatever is coming to us with whatever means necessary, but indeed everyone has his role in this grand sceme of things and who knows i may take a look at the site about HCR in the future and try it out.
Originally posted by photobug
Yes,
this leader will be called the antichrist, the beast or whatever my 2 cents.... do not be decieved by this awakening, enlightenment or whatever new age philosophy is out there. It is all a deception from the truth to unite the world under one government and 1 religion. "One light many lamps" is a poitically correct deception to sway you from the truth. That truth is that Jesus Christ is God's son and was given to us as a sacrifice for our sins. It's simple love in the purest form. Any good parent would do the same for their children.
Originally posted by Harman
...it seems that when i go about the Chakra meditation i am strengthening myself already without the help of some kind of spirit that could choose at a whim to cut me off. I mean, i have done it a few times with result, to be honest i'm really bad at repetitive things like daily meditation so i drop out of it regularly. Is that what you mean? Because when i do any meditation i'm working to get my defenses up only i would work on all the chakra's from bottom upwards, you need a strong base to build your pyramid on.
I understand you completely.
HCR, if done correctly, does not involve channeling or mediumship. It is a direct strengthening of the ability to love genuinely and deeply. It can lead to channeling discarnate Saints but that is only because one has progressed enough to make one of interest to them. Kind of like in the Star Trek universe whereby the Vulcans were not interested in meeting Terrans until they realized the latter had warp drive capability. Much like that.
Secondly, most of the time one will not be spiritually amplified when using HCR. So you won't feel the difference. That is one of the illusions of physical existence. However, if you use it anyway with the right focus, every once in a while you will get a slight amplification from discarnate Saints - likened to Abraham Maslow's peak experience understanding - and you will feel the difference in your ability to Radiate love genuinely and deeply, providing guidance that you are spiritually progressing.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
The traditional approach of angel magick is like a horse and buggy in energy levels. The innovative approach of HCR potentially grants the equivalent of a nuclear power planet for each highly evolved soul in The Light. Quite a difference but only for those who have the spiritual discipline to use it regularly and correctly.
Originally posted by Harman
Oh agreed on the guide granting you 'second hand' power thing. But HCR is not the only stick in the box to get your own way of generating this kind of light.
Do tell.
Originally posted by Harman
Just like little babies trying to walk, first the parents will hold on to the little one taking stumbling steps without any balans, later on it can walk without support and have it's own balans. Growth spiritually works the same way. I would like to learn to walk instead of taking of sprinting with the risk of slamming into some unforseen wall.
There is no wall with HCR. You grow at your own pace.
Originally posted by Harman
So again, agreeing on 'being you own light' just the way to that point may differ. It could be that before trying HCR some experience in the field of esoterics is wise to have.
It definitely helps but not in all cases, especially when one is not open to trying something new.
Originally posted by Harman
I'm willing to take whatever is coming to us with whatever means necessary, but indeed everyone has his role in this grand sceme of things and who knows i may take a look at the site about HCR in the future and try it out.
That is all we ask.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
HCR, if done correctly, does not involve channeling or mediumship. It is a direct strengthening of the ability to love genuinely and deeply. It can lead to channeling discarnate Saints but that is only because one has progressed enough to make one of interest to them. Kind of like in the Star Trek universe whereby the Vulcans were not interested in meeting Terrans until they realized the latter had warp drive capability. Much like that.
Secondly, most of the time one will not be spiritually amplified when using HCR. So you won't feel the difference. That is one of the illusions of physical existence. However, if you use it anyway with the right focus, every once in a while you will get a slight amplification from discarnate Saints - likened to Abraham Maslow's peak experience understanding - and you will feel the difference in your ability to Radiate love genuinely and deeply, providing guidance that you are spiritually progressing.
Originally posted by Harman
So, if i read it correctly the chance could exist that i would feel nothing the whole time i'm practicing this HCR? Some will get some kind of amplification to test the progress but not all? Should i take it on fate that i'm progressing if i'm unlucky enough to not get that test of the saints? Are the saints the ones that guide us? Are the saints not the same ones other people would look at as the guides/angels? Why/why not?
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
The traditional approach of angel magick is like a horse and buggy in energy levels. The innovative approach of HCR potentially grants the equivalent of a nuclear power planet for each highly evolved soul in The Light. Quite a difference but only for those who have the spiritual discipline to use it regularly and correctly.
Originally posted by Harman
Oh agreed on the guide granting you 'second hand' power thing. But HCR is not the only stick in the box to get your own way of generating this kind of light.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
Do tell.
Originally posted by Harman
Well, every kind of self empowering way to rid yourself of the emotional debri, everything that cleanses your 'pipes' so you can enable your system to generate the power inherited in all of us. If i meditate with the intention to communicate with guides i will do just that, when i do it with the intention to empower myself my consciousness/essence will concentrate on that and will go that way. That is my idea of it anyways where you concetrate on is what you attract, take control and you are the master you want to be.
Originally posted by Paul_Richard
There is no wall with HCR. You grow at your own pace.
Originally posted by Harman
Ok, but, without guidance how do i know i'm not taking the wrong turn? I could be a confused personality without barings into the positive way of the experience and go left where i should go right, without someone/entitiy that i trust to show me the errors of my ways i could fall into some kind of trap set up by [whatever]
Originally posted by Harman
I'm so openminded about these things i regularly have pick up my brains up of the ground because it slipped out . The thing that bugs me is that this is being brung like the only way to defend yourself against evil things while intention is 60% of the way and everybody has his own way to differenatiate on the rest of the way, wich brings strength in variety.
Originally posted by Harman
And yes, i think we are both on the same side by the way
HCR sounds more difficult to do than it is. It is more tedious at first then anything else, until you get used to it.