Originally posted by theflashor
Yes but is giving birth to a human in the physical form also the same as giving birth to the spirtual form? now thats a question where the probable
answer is yes, But when the physical form dies does the spirtual form? hmm
And if the spirtual form is like a reincarnation from a previous floating soul where does the spirtual form come from? Where is its origin / birth
But twins, and family members that would make the same sort of choices / preferences due to dna would suggest at birth you give birth to both the Soul
and Physical bodies.
Mind boggling stuff keep it coming
Interesting question about the birth of a soul, and does it come from the physical. I see this in a father and son relationship, and it also has to
do with being born of the physical, or being born of the father(god).
My soul and consciousness is born of god, the father. My physical is born of my parents, and my DNA and so forth. 2 births. When I die, then I
will go back to where I came. Just like the start and end of a roller coaster. If I maintain my soul, my individuality is not up to the physical,
because it is not of or born of the physical.
My DNA, my position in the universe, my experiences and so forth do not define "me". They do however define the experience and reality that I am
currently having. Many people actually do define the experience as themselves. Racism is a good example of such. And not just hate towards other
races, but also the way people actively seek to define themselves as being a race. As if because they were born a circle color, what another person
does of that color actually matters and they treat it as if they are a part of that. Nationalism, same thing. Because I was born in America, what
another American does it's supposed to be as if I did it? Religion? Yep, look at how many people supported Bush because he was a "good
christian", and all he had to do was make the claim he was such. And of course, there is no shortage of those who want to define you by such things
Such things are silly to me, and examples of when people allow themselves to be defined by such things. What happens is you begin to associate all
the things that are good about yourself, or good about what another does with anyone who also shares a common quality and then you ignore the bad
things that actually goes on. You associate yourself as being these physical things, and then you protect and defend based on the physical, usually
overlooking the bad in it, and in yourself.
So nope, such things do not define me, they define my experience. And what we pretty much make our personalities out of is the things around us.
It's all about what we allow ourselves to be defined by. Family and twins obviously share a lot of the same experiences and such, and their
physical similarities also would probably suggest experiencing things in a similar way. But they change what they associate themselves as being all
through life. Just break open and old family album for proof of that. We all play different parts in our time, just as Shakespeare says.
This is also known as culture. And if you've ever traveled around a bit, then you know every little town or community has this different feel about
things. Like it's own little way of seeing things. Smaller cultures within bigger cultures and so on. Take someone, put them in a different
culture, and they start to blend in. The longer you leave them, the more they change. Because their associations change.
So physically we do share the same vessel as our family, but our personalities and such aren't really defined by it so much. You buy car and if it
has a problem with the windshield wipers, there is a good chance the other car just like it does as well. But it gets it's personality from it's
owner. Is it clean or dirty? Does it always speed, or does it do the speed limit? Drive around the road erratically, or stay in the lines? Etc.
These are a result of the owner of the vehicle, not the vehicle itself.