Couple Make Burglar Clean Their Home At Gunpoint, page 2

reply to post by TheRedneck

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hehehe

my god this is still making me laugh lol

reply to post by weemadmental

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lol great aint it

I can honeslty say this is the best thing i have read on ATS in all the time iv been reading on here

fills me with joy and laughter

/me pokes the robber in the eye "fck you jack" haha

Originally posted by Syandos
Not to put a damper on the hilarity, but technically speaking this could be considered holding someone aganist their will, i.e. kidnapping.

Let's hope the perp doesn't get a decent lawyer and realize this.

To me, you invade someone's house in pursuit of criminal activity you deserve whatever you get. Good on them!

it's not kidnapping, and i firmly believe the courts will uphold this interpretation

49 states in the united states have laws allowing for citizen arrests to be made

that means in 49 states you can arrest and detain felons until law enforcement arrives to pick up the pieces

and in N.C. you can only detain them, you cant arrest and transport them like you can in the other 49 states

citizens do not receive as many protections from criminals under law that police have, so please observe the law when making an arrest and act like a professional citizen

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by FredT

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First, always shoot for Center of Mass.

Second, bike theft is not grounds for murder.

Third, as a resident of that area, I'd rather have a minor hoodlum bike thief running around the neighborhood than a psychosocial kid with a .357.

Now if he'd shot him in the butt, -that- would be funny.

As far as this case goes, having the burglar or any criminal go back and clean up after his criminal act, that's not a bad idea. You shoot someone, you have to send their kids through college. You burn down a house, you have to rebuild it. You cause a traffic accident, you have to buy the victim a new car and clean up the mess with a push broom.

Think of it. Teams of former arsonists rebuilding houses under prison guard supervision. Bullies serving as crossing guards. Bank robbers washing bank windows.

Anyway, I digress.

reply to post by muzzleflash

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You are correct, sir. It is not kidnapping, but a similar offense called 'false imprisonment'. Generally speaking, Kidnapping also involves element of false imprisonment but not the other way around.

However, false imprisonment is also a crime, though it's probably up to the D.A. to make an interpretation. A suit could be brought.

A minor point, because in reality, though it doesn't turn into classic kidnapping unless you remove the detainee from the site, I -believe-.

But detaining anyone at gunpoint could cause a charge of false imprisonment to be filed against you. Jurisdictions may vary.

It wouldn't be advisable to follow this as an example without due caution, since often the tables get turned, as unfair as that might seem.

PS
I was recently reading a case where a homeowner detained a kid while the police were coming by holding him in his front yard and the homeowner was charged with either kidnapping or imprisonment. Might have been because it was a kid and not an adult criminal.



[edit on 14/2/2009 by Syandos]

reply to post by Syandos

You miss the broader picture.

Sure, stealing a bike is not and should not be a capital offense, but the guy who finds out he can steal a bike with impunity then proceeds to stealing cars. Someday he runs into someone who is willing to fight for their car and caps them. Now he's already a killer, so why not just knock off anyone else in his way?

In this case, though, all the other kids who witnessed the act will no longer think they can steal with impunity. They will have less reason to grow up to be thugs. Yeah, one died, but then again, when I think of a gang, I tend to think of hyenas before I do humans.

Best way to fight off a pack of hyenas? Shoot one, and the rest will leave.

TheRedneck

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